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Drafting big trucks?

Old 06-17-09, 02:04 PM
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Drafting big trucks?

Be sure to pay attention to the brake lights

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories...storyID=811230
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Old 06-17-09, 02:06 PM
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Link summary: Man drafts bus. Bus pulls over. Man hits bus.
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Old 06-17-09, 02:12 PM
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There is at least one BFer who drafts dump trucks. At something like 50 mph no less...

There are pics to prove it!
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That's why you want to stay out near the edge of the vehicle so you can avoid them if they decide to hit the brakes hard
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Old 06-17-09, 02:18 PM
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The moral is: don't draft buses. Too many stops.

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Old 06-17-09, 02:24 PM
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i don't draft busses but i'll draft ups trucks and SUV's, Mini vans, Trucks with campers, ect. Oh, and big rigs... they CAN'T stop fast.
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Old 06-17-09, 02:38 PM
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Drafted a recycling truck the other day on my ride to work doing mid 20's (slow but the break from the headwind was nice). He was carrying a spare dumpster on their fork thingys and then I heard a giant crackling noise from overhead. He had hit some low crossing power lines and all the lines and poles on both sides of road were swaying back and forth, then he nearly locks up the brakes trying to stop.

Exciting morning...
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I drafted a pickup at 45 mph once, but it was a little scary. I decided never to draft anything I couldn't see through, or dodge around easily. They might not be able to stop fast, but they don't have to stop for you to run into them.
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Old 06-17-09, 02:40 PM
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I'm partial to fire engines, myself.

BTW: thanks to SPFD Engine #8 on Water ST last Sunday.
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Beer trucks are great for drafting...
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Any square box truck works great. Not for the faint of heart, not legal, and not safe, but sometimes you just can't resist a 55 mph run.
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Originally Posted by captnfantastic View Post
i don't draft busses but i'll draft ups trucks and SUV's, Mini vans, Trucks with campers, ect. Oh, and big rigs... they CAN'T stop fast.
Oh yes they do. Ten very big air powered brakes will stop that truck on a dime on a flat dry road on a warm day. Trust me on this.
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Originally Posted by brian416 View Post
That's why you only draft behind people who know you're there and know how to drive with a cyclist drafting them.
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Originally Posted by bikeride View Post

i don't draft busses but i'll draft ups trucks and SUV's, Mini vans, Trucks with campers, ect. Oh, and big rigs... they CAN'T stop fast.

Oh yes they do. Ten very big air powered brakes will stop that truck on a dime on a flat dry road on a warm day. Trust me on this.
After sucking the diesel fumes into his lungs during intense cardio effort, then between the brain damage and lung cancer, being smushed by a truck'll be a mercy killing...
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If anyone does try drafting "at home" - or is otherwise prone to riding near the Big Ones - watch out for chunks of tyre coming off. It happens more than you think.
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Originally Posted by captnfantastic View Post
i don't draft busses but i'll draft ups trucks and SUV's, Mini vans, Trucks with campers, ect. Oh, and big rigs... they CAN'T stop fast.
I was in my car tailgating an 18 wheeler when another truck intentionally cut him off and slammed on the brakes. I was quickly doing an emergency stop while enveloped in a thick cloud of tire smoke. Talk about your exciting drives on the freeway.

I drafted on a tractor yesterday. The disadvantage to that is that the driver is familiar with the fact that you are back there. The advantage is they can't outrun you. I don't know about their brakes, I was far enough back to avoid if that became an issue.
Earlier in the ride I considered drafting an asphalt truck. I decided it wasn't a good idea when I realized there was a trough of molten hot asphalt right there just below shoulder level, perfect for a face plant where you lose your face.
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If you're going to draft vehicles, let me suggest this one to save them some time in responding.

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The best I have drafted was an enclosed landscaping trailer. Also drafted a semi but it was like 5 ft off the gorund so it wasnt as nice.
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I always keep close to the right. If the truck does brake hard I can squirt around him, and I can also see if the bike lane is clear...wouldn't do to enter the lane blindly at 40-50 mph and collide with someone/something.

Also, the still air behind a truck is HUGE. You don't have to hug the bumper. Depending on speed, you can follow at two or three or five bike lengths and still push zero air.

Not saying it's safe by any means, and it's a good way to piss a truck driver off. Apart from that, it's fun, good workout, and a crowd pleaser. I especially love the looks I get from kids in the back of cars going past.

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Originally Posted by FLvector View Post
If you're going to draft vehicles, let me suggest this one to save them some time in responding.

This is the kind of forward thinking that we need around here.
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I drafted a nice Audi the other day, and a police car.
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To sum up many posts.

"but sometimes you just can't resist a 55 mph run" Just so true.

"Ten very big air powered brakes will stop that truck on a dime" But way way longer than a pair of Mavic SSC brakes will stop a bike.

"Also, the still air behind a truck is HUGE. You don't have to hug the bumper" Exactly, and if you are paying attention the two points above are no problem.

"it's a good way to piss a truck driver off."
Well as the saying goes, if you can't see their mirrors, they can't see you. And you can still maintain the distance. Its all about the location for this and where you hop in - and semis are still the best. Huge air gap behind, very long blind spot, and long stopping distance.

"Be sure to pay attention to the brake lights" Well yes.

Finally, for safe drafting, I highly recommend two 200 pound guys on a tandem bike but this is as common as unicorns. I got behind such a beast on a century for one of the greatest 30 minutes of my cycling life. I cruised along in the low 30 mpg range like it was nothing for half an hour, before they missed a turn and despite my yells they returned to the magical forest.

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Finally, for safe drafting, I highly recommend two 200 pound guys on a tandem bike but this is as common as unicorns.
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I don't draft buses. I pass buses.
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anyway,

I don't draft cars, cars draft me
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