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Lance wins Nevada City Classic

Old 06-22-09, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Pizza Man
There was over $5,000. I don't know how deep it went.

I'm trying to find the best pic of me getting lapped.
This one's pretty good.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chicovelo/3651348242/
What do you look like? What's your kit? I can see if I have any of you... I've posted quite a few shots, but not all of them.... https://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisca...7620079268177/
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Lance who?
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Originally Posted by Lazyrider
The TDF is a whole other world, obviously. However, you can look at it from the standpoint that Lance's specialty are stage races and not crits. There were guys in that race that should have been more competitive and Lance was able to win at a style of race he hasn't won in years. Unless it was fixed. LOL

Regardless of what anyone says here about Lance and this TDF. The guy took almost 4 years off, fractured his collarbone badly leading up to the Giro and still finished 12th. Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. Mind you, he was off substantially the time of the top 3, but he was using the Giro as a tune up at that point and still placed well out of a 180 man field. And he's pushing 38. What is wrong with you people, he's a freak.
Originally Posted by Lazyrider
This may start a whole debate, but many (not all) of the guy's here who fancy themselves "hardcore cyclists/fans" and the racer dudes will shun anyone who they seem gets "giddy" over Lance as he is too obvious and mainstream. That goes for the brand of bike he rides too.

Yes, it is an adolescent way of thinking, but it is natural. It is the same reason why people hate the Yankees throughout the history of baseball. They were too dominant and obvious and people loved to hate them.

Everyone was rooting for him in 1999. How could you not? It was the most amazing year and the most important win in my opinion. If he had never won again, it would have been an amazing comeback, but to win 7 years in a row is FREAKISH.

In no other major sport has anyone team or individual won something of the magnitude of the TDF 7 years in a row. To not become complacent or lazy over that period and to only get stronger each year is just amazing and more a manifestation of his mental fortitude than his physical prowess. A lot of these guys just got sick of seeing him win, but many years from now it will dawn on them what they have witnessed.
You two are trying to have an argument that just isn't there. There is no lance hate going on this thread. Most of us are just saying that performance in a crit is not an indication of performance in a stage race. Saying that he is even more competitive because it's not his style of race is taking it to beyond ridiculousness. The only rider not on his team of even remotely similar caliber was BJM and he was triple-teamed into submission. I have nothing against Lance, just don't think this means anything.
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Found this pic of LA from the race. He's looking more lean.
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Originally Posted by BikeWNC
Found this pic of LA from the race. He's looking more lean.
cant see it
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Old 06-22-09, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by drafters65
cant see it
Hmmm, works for me. Try this.
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That Lance dude is without any doubt or question the most ripped bicycle racer I have ever seen. Period.
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Originally Posted by umd
You two are trying to have an argument that just isn't there. There is no lance hate going on this thread. Most of us are just saying that performance in a crit is not an indication of performance in a stage race. Saying that he is even more competitive because it's not his style of race is taking it to beyond ridiculousness. The only rider not on his team of even remotely similar caliber was BJM and he was triple-teamed into submission. I have nothing against Lance, just don't think this means anything.
The other guy was referring to a dynamic that DOES EXIST about people who tend to bring Lance up. In fact, there are often suggestions to relegate these threads to specific areas because some of you get annoyed by all of them.

I did state that this Crit and the TDF are totally different worlds all together. Dude, I have been following cycling since the days of Sean Kelly and Fignon so I am not naive. And all the Trek bashing that went on over these boards through the years is also evidence of what the other poster was referring to. UNDENIABLE.

Now, do I think Lance will win this TDF? Probably little to no chance, but he will be competitive if he stays motivated to win. As far as him winning a Crit yesterday, well it isn't an indication of poor form either. When he raced here in NYC Crit in 2002 after his 4th TDF, he finished 28th. So, yes he is not a Crit specialist and he was at his peak then.
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I'd rather read about his shoes.
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Originally Posted by BikeWNC
Found this pic of LA from the race. He's looking more lean.
Heard an interview with him that said he was 2kg lighter than before any of his previous TdF's so.. your observation is correct
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Originally Posted by DiabloScott
Correction, Horner had the team bike.

All of them are on new Madones; the photos show slightly different tube profiles, different forks, and internal derailleur routing.
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agree that lance's win is not any kind of meaningful predictor of how he will perform in the tour. if anything, it only goes to show how much further ahead uci pro tour riders are versus our domestic pros. uci pros can literally ride circles around the domestics... pretty effing amazing considering when i run into a regular old cat 2/3 on the road, i think they are pretty freaking fast!
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Originally Posted by Lazyrider
The other guy was referring to a dynamic that DOES EXIST about people who tend to bring Lance up. In fact, there are often suggestions to relegate these threads to specific areas because some of you get annoyed by all of them.

I did state that this Crit and the TDF are totally different worlds all together. Dude, I have been following cycling since the days of Sean Kelly and Fignon so I am not naive. And all the Trek bashing that went on over these boards through the years is also evidence of what the other poster was referring to. UNDENIABLE.
But it's not going on in this thread which is why it's quite amusing that you two (more him) are making such a big deal about it. OP says "Appears that LA is more than ready for TDF" and everybody jumps on and says crit != TDF and the response is why the hatin' on Lance... C'mon, you gotta admit it's pretty funny.
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Originally Posted by jay0k
Lance has done more for U.S. cycling than any other pro in history. Trek is an american company that still makes their bikes right here in the U.S.A. I just don't get where the contempt comes from.
Um. Someone feel free to correct me if I have the wrong information. Trek only makes their carbon frames here in the US. Aluminum is outsourced to Asia. Read this on BF somewhere and I think the Made in Taiwan sticker that used to be on my 1.2 confirms it.

Originally Posted by patentcad
That Lance dude is without any doubt or question the most ripped bicycle racer I have ever seen. Period.
I've heard that Pcad guy everyone talks about is a close second.

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I'd rather read about his shoes.
I know. Solid black with black socks. So mysterious.
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Originally Posted by SilverSurfR
Um. Someone feel free to correct me if I have the wrong information. Trek only makes their carbon frames here in the US. Aluminum is outsourced to Asia. Read this on BF somewhere and I think the Made in Taiwan sticker that used to be on my 1.2 confirms it.
Correction: they make some of their carbon frames here. Still, that's more than a lot of other companies do. But, then again, I've seen plenty of threads where new posters asked about good, American made bikes and were basically called xenophobes, racists, etc. because of it.


All that is completely beside the point of the OP though. I agree with everybody who said this race has nothing to do with any UCI pro race, nevermind the TDF. Saying that winning this race means Armstrong is in good shape for the tour is like saying that Tiger Woods winning a round of put put means he's ready for the US Open.
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