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rydaddy 06-26-09 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by DJFlowe (Post 9157619)
Hi everyone... total newbie question here.

I'm doing my first century ride this weekend. I'm very new to cycling- got my first "real" bike about 5 months ago. I anticipate it taking me at least 5 hours for the ride. I'm in central NC, so I'm anticipating close to 100 degree temps and at least 90% humidity on Saturday.

You might want to check your assumptions. I'll say closer to 7 hours total, plus or minus depending on the terrain.

agarose2000 06-26-09 01:53 PM

Trust me - no matter how "dorky" the hardcore roadies say your Camelbak is, you'll regret it BIG TIME if you're out of water without support and have an hour or more riding before you get to the next water stop.

This probably won't happen on a supported century ride, but it happens to me if I do long 5-6 hour mountain training rides in the Santa Monica mountains; my first water stop is 60 miles from the start, and there is only one (busy) restaurant between miles 35-60, so if it's over 80F, even with 3 full bottles, you're screwed if you don't bring the Camelbak.

There's nothing dorky about the Camelbak in reality. Heck, if it lets your ride faster because you've got more fuel and hydration at the end, nobody behind you will be laughing, trust me.

jay0k 06-26-09 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by rydaddy (Post 9172944)
You might want to check your assumptions. I'll say closer to 7 hours total, plus or minus depending on the terrain.

I was about to say the same thing. 5 hours is pretty tough time for a century. A camelback might be necessary for that if you don't have excellent support as you won't have much time to fiddle around with refilling water bottles.

On sub 5 hour organized centuries with hilly terrain you have to learn to grab water bottles from rest stops and refill on the bike. The better rides will have motorcycles passing out bottles too. Oh, and learn to pee on the bike too :)

Vireo 06-26-09 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by logdrum (Post 9162564)
Maybe I am getting better but they say New Mexicans (I am a transplant) are lizards when it comes to drinking water. UMD and the other dude forgot his name, really hot girlfriend -- I was also surprised last year that they claim not drinking much while riding but here I am today, just one water bottle and rarely do I use electrolytes.

I rode really a lot last year and as the year ended I only have one water bottle cage. My fixed gear does not have a water bottle cage and I ride 10-15 milers at night during the winter without the need to drink at all.

However I have kept the camelback in the freezer and use it to cool myself plus you have cold water when it melts. Just an idea

UMD is umd.

I might be that "other dude" = Vireo

"really hot girlfriend" = Brandy:love:

I just commuted this week with no water bottles or gel packs. It was an easy week of only 90 miles and 2479 kjs because I am doing a Quad on Saturday. My morning commute was 30 miles and my evening commute was 15.

I remain convinced that people take too much stuff when they ride. I can't wait too see the amount of camelbacks at this year's Grand Tour. They have a 200km, 200 miles, 300 miles, and a 400 mile option. It is very well supported. But I'm sure there will be people with everything but the kitchen sink on their bike and person.

agarose2000 06-26-09 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by rydaddy (Post 9172944)
You might want to check your assumptions. I'll say closer to 7 hours total, plus or minus depending on the terrain.

Wow - with 100% humidity and temps into the 90s, you'd better be ready on the hydration front. If the water stops are farther apart than 30 miles, you should seriously consider a Camelbak or 3rd bottle.

I'd agree with the above post as well - in those conditions, even a flat course could take you 7 hours total easily. You'd probably have to hammer it for most of the course to average 20 miles per hour, as one roller will drop you to 15ish or below.

Vireo 06-26-09 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by Dry | Lung (Post 9166745)
I find it hilarious that someone would put a water bottle in their middle jersey pocket, which is absolutely the most uncomfortable thing I can imagine, before they would wear a camelbak. I personally don't wear a camelbak, because most of my routes have easy water stops, but I wouldn't hesitate putting one on if needed. 100 degree heat is no joke, and there's no use putting yourself in danger or making things hard on yourself just because some ocd folks think wearing water on your back, as opposed to putting it on your bike, is that big of a difference.

INCORRECT!

Notice how they sit low on your back. With the zipper open the jersey actually swings away and you get cooling air on your chest AND it swirls around your back. The temps for these pictures was 110 degrees. You are much cooler with bottles in your jersey than a camelback on your back. :thumb:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/...38f9b631_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/...df5b024b_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3215/...3dd7b6f1_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3066/...ac39b28b_b.jpg

Tsuru 06-26-09 02:17 PM

If it's okay with you, I'll just focus on this image:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/...df5b024b_b.jpg

RedC 06-26-09 02:31 PM

Use what works for you! I gave up caring what anyone thought of how I looked the day I put my 250lb butt in spandex.:roflmao2:

Vireo 06-26-09 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Tsuru (Post 9173098)
If it's okay with you, I'll just focus on this image:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3110/...df5b024b_b.jpg

There are so many better pictures:innocent:

hairnet 06-26-09 02:56 PM

http://www.giant-bicycles.com/_gener...%20Adapter.jpg

you can also get something like this if you want to carry a couple extra bottles

halfspeed 06-26-09 04:42 PM


Originally Posted by chinarider (Post 9172476)
I do, and I think this discussion has no additional utility.

Well if you're going to make silly assumptions, you have to expect others to feel justified in doing the same.


Originally Posted by chinarider (Post 9172476)
Whatever works for you is great.

Exactly my point.

Tsuru 06-29-09 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Vireo (Post 9173251)
There are so many better pictures:innocent:

oh yeah? but this is a good start, no? Sometimes it's best to start from behind... oh wait.


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