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Pcad Dura Ace 7900 Wrap Up

Old 07-01-09, 11:16 AM
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Pcad Dura Ace 7900 Wrap Up

After five months on this stuff my impressions:

• It's lighter, I like the new esthetics, I like the hidden cables on the bars.

• I like the new brifter hood shape very much, better than the old style

• At first I wasn't impressed with the shifting. A recent upgrade to Shimano SIS cables made a huge difference, now I like it. The lever throw however is longer than it was with 7800, and I consider that a negative. That being said, once you get used to it, 7900 shifts flawlessly.

• The brakes are by far the best bicycle brakes I've used. Noticeably more effective.

Overall, very satisfied, much more so since the cable upgrade. That's key. Many OEM bikes ship with cheaper cables (the Cervelo did). The Shimano reps say the SIS cables are important, they appear to be correct. I do like the fact that I was able to incorporate the 7800 bubble indicator on the 7900 cables. If you can find a spot on your bike where that would be visible, it's not hard to do.
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Old 07-01-09, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post

• The brakes are by far the best bicycle brakes I've used. Noticeably more effective.
Are you using the stock 7900 brake pads ?
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Are you using the stock 7900 brake pads ?
I'm using Swisstop Yellow pads, but those are the same pads I use on my Cdale with 7800. The 7900 brakes are an improvement.
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I think if you had bought a Campagnolo gruppo you would not have had those problems in the first place. just say'n












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Old 07-01-09, 11:50 AM
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I've been mildly impressed by 7900, but not nearly enough to justify Shimano's bat crap crazy prices.
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Those campy cranks are fugly.......to each his own

I think Bicycling Mag had a similar write up on 7900 this month.
The bottom line was better braking, less responsive shifting (ever so slight), no chain rub.
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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria View Post
I think if you had bought a Campagnolo gruppo you would not have had those problems in the first place. just say'n
shillissimo.
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Originally Posted by trojanman View Post
Those campy cranks are fugly.......to each his own

I think Bicycling Mag had a similar write up on 7900 this month.
The bottom line was better braking, less responsive shifting (ever so slight), no chain rub.
That's about right.
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Best Campy bombing ever.
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I like the way the super record cranks look.

Too bad they cost $900 for the f-ing crank alone.
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Originally Posted by Grumpy McTrumpy View Post
shillissimo.
I cant be a shill since I am in no way associated or compensated in any way by Campagnolo.

I just know their stuff is the best and I want to tell everybody!

lets review

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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria View Post
I cant be a shill since I am in no way associated or compensated in any way by Campagnolo.
The only thing you have to do to be labeled a shill on BF is post that you like any product for any reason. You should know that by now.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
• At first I wasn't impressed with the shifting. A recent upgrade to Shimano SIS cables made a huge difference, now I like it. The lever throw however is longer than it was with 7800, and I consider that a negative. That being said, once you get used to it, 7900 shifts flawlessly.
I think the improvement in shifting was a result of the new instrumentation rather than the cabling...

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but how does da7900 stack up against sram red?
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The only thing you have to do to be labeled a shill on BF is post that you like any BD product for any reason. You should know that by now.
fixed it for you
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why didn't shimano shifters come with shimano cables? when i bought 105 shifters they came with the sis cables. seems odd if they come as a set.
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Why would the cables make that much of a difference?
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We're glad you were able to convince yourself that your purchase was not in fact a big waste of money.
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We're glad you were able to convince yourself that your purchase was not in fact a big waste of money.
I never said it wasn't a big waste of money. All this cycling crap is a big waste of money.
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Why would the cables make that much of a difference?
Possibly because the ones that were replaced didn't have proper tension on them. But more likely because schwagadelic upgrades always make things better. Now that the shifting is fixed, pcad can add 4mph to his average speed by getting ceramic bearings for his BB.
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Hey PCAD. I haven't been here for like 6 months or more. Can you point me to a post of pictures of your new bike.

You have too many posts and I am tired searching
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Originally Posted by tsohg View Post
I like the way the super record cranks look.

Too bad they cost $900 for the f-ing crank alone.
Yeah, and $900 doesn't even get you a third chainring. Sheesh.
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Campy 11 is not nearly as expensive as some folks would have you think. SR cranks can be had for $560 from Ribble.

SR offers very little in the way of improvement for the extra cost. Chorus 11 cranks look the same and only weigh 40 grams more. They also have the same chainrings. I paid about $310 each for both of my cranksets.

I've been using Campy 11 speed since last November. The shifting is a little better and the new brake/shift levers are a nice improvment - more comfortable and easier to use. Unlike 7900, they can still shift 3-cogs larger with one sweep (of the finger lever) and still drop 5 cogs smaller with one push (of the thumb button). The shifters also cost less than any other brand.

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Yeah, and $900 doesn't even get you a third chainring. Sheesh.
Ew.
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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria View Post
I think if you had bought a Campagnolo gruppo you would not have had those problems in the first place. just say'n
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