camhabib

Which would you rather? I'm looking for outfit a newly purchased Cervelo S3, and the more I research into the differences between the SR11 and DA7900, the more confused I get with which way to go. Opinions / suggestions?

Flatballer

If you want the best of the best, it's SR11. No question. Especially compared to DA7900, and especially if money isn't a problem.

camhabib

Exactly how much more is the SR11 compared to the DA7900?

Ih8lucky13

I disagree.

That being said choosing either one is not a bad choice.

Flatballer

Actually, surprisingly, I just checked and DA is actually $40 more expensive than SR11 right now on CompetitiveCyclist. I don't look at these higher end groups much, because I can't actually afford them.

Flatballer

I guess I'm mostly just disappointed in Shimano for putting out DA7900. It's not that it's bad, it's just that they jacked up the price, and didn't do much, especially compared to Red.

Take anything I say with a grain of salt, I haven't ridden either one, just going based on what I've read and heard from other riders. I doubt you're going to find a lot of people who have actually ridden both of these groups though.

Ih8lucky13

Then how do you know SR 11 is the best?


Most of the arguments about which one are better are usually based on opinion and not fact.

Howzit

x2

Make sure you buy off eBay, best prices available.

I was a Shimano guy for many years. I mean, i LOVED Shimano, they could never do me wrong. I think they are the best components out there.

However, I recently switched to Super Record 11. First time riding Campy. I cannot be happier. Im not just saying that to justify my purchase.
Admittedly the reason I switched goes deeper than just functionality.
As Andy from Competitive Cyclist said in his review, as I get older and fiscally more responsible, Campy just lasts a lot, lot, lot longer. Plus its fully rebuild-able. If you crash and ruin your shifters, just switch the levers, but with Shimano, you have to throw away the whole damn thing. Bad for the environment too.
Secondly, I have always found the braking micro "notchy" feeling of campy nice. They seem to have added this to DA 7900 though, although not as nice as Campy.
They use ceramic bearings on Campy, again, smoother and a lot longer lasting.

I have a SCOTT CR1, so the carbon look was appealing to me. In a world full of logos and flashy bikes, this sisnt a bad thing to keep up with the Jones' a little.


Campagnolo is also like PC vs Mac. Shimano has a much bigger market share, and cheaper, just like PCs. Campy is a lot more passionate (their marketing at least) and a little more pricey, and isnt as popular (like Macs.)
In my older days, I appreciate the finer details in life, and want to enjoy the heritage and passion of cycling. Im not the young crazy cat I was that rode rainn or shine and put in mile after mile and only cared about my legs. My bike is now part of the love for the sport. So the Super Record legacy was appealing to me also.

Super Record is also a little lighter. I am a climber, so the slight weight savings appealed to me.

I also was searching for change and something new. Try something different.

And finally, "it goes to eleven"

Hope this helps.

camhabib

Perhaps I should have just asked for first hand experiences. I liked the shifting on the Campy a little more, despite the fact that I've always had Shimano sets.

Flatballer

So I'm assuming then that you've ridden both SR11 and DA7900?

Ih8lucky13

Yes I have and Red.

cod.peace

Super Record is better, because it goes to 11.

iab

Personally, I prefer the thumb shifting on the Campagnolo. Other than that and aesthetics (I prefer Campagnolo there too), there is not that much difference.

PipinFan

Just test both and see what you like best,this remains me the Porsche vs Ferrari,Glock vs H&K and Rolex vs Breitling... I'm a Porsche,Glock,Breitling guy............ahhhh your question.. I like Shimano all the way,by the way I know personally several cat 1 and 2 including pro riders and they ALL "prefer" Shimano.

genie

I have RED, D/A 7900, and SR. The first two are very good, but SR is, in my view, far superior in both precision and ergonomics. It does exactly what is supposed to do time after time, and it looks best too.

AndyK 

I think a lot also has to do with the frame you will be putting the group on! Cervelo and Campy SR is an instant classic. Cervelo and Shimano - if you have the choice? Gotta go Campy.

botto 

of course you are.

Jynx

RichinPeoria

kergin

fakepost.

Nessism

The bold parts made me chuckle.

The parts in RED seem to be the REAL reason you switched. Nothing wrong with getting what you want, just please don't try to justify your reason with logic...because it doesn't work.

DaveSSS 

I've used nothing but Campy since 1995, and I have two bikes setup with 11 speed. I did not chose SR because the minor differences between most SR parts and Record or Chorus are simple not worth the money.

The standout difference is the CULT bearings on the SR crank. Those are nice for increased longevity and resistance to wear from the intrusion of water or grit. Chrous cranks are only 40 grams heavier and much cheaper.

The SR shifters only have one Ti part to reduce the weight by 10-15 grams per pair - not worth the money. Record and Chorus shifters are mechanically identical.

The Ti cogs on a Record or SR cassette will last half as long as steel. I'd be in desperate to save 30 grams to fork out the extra bucks for Record or even more for SR.

If you want the best bang for the buck, buy Chorus or a Record/Chorus mix.

Check prices at Euro sources like Ribble or Shiny bikes before buying from E-bay. I bought back when the exchange rates were much better than they are now and got really low prices, like $240 for Record 11 shifters and $310 for Chorus 11 cranks. Licktons has a good price on the Chorus 11 group, but not so good on Record.

merlinextraligh

Rather contradictory to say you went to Super Record because you're fiscally more responsible. Most of the touches that make Super Record, Super Record decrease longevity, and increase expense, such as CF front derailleur cage, and Ti in the cassette.

Sure, its a great group, but it's a little silly to say you went to SR to be more fiscally responsible. Regular Record or Chorus, would be a lot more fiscally responsible.

PipinFan

Thank you botto.. I love you too... nice to see you in picture again..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:HyenaTanzania.JPG


In another note, those Campi pictures are a beauty ... Jezzz I like the shape of the hoods of DA much better..but no doubt Campi is a beauty..

https://www.light-bikes.de/website/ne...5/da7900_b.jpg

GP 

This forum needs a stroking smiley for comments like that. Did you type it with a straight face?