Bullet PROOF Road Racing Tires?
07-14-09, 06:57 AM
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Wow, I thought this thread died. I saw it getting bumped and was WTF?
Man what a nice thread to start my day.
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Man what a nice thread to start my day.
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08-17-09, 01:31 PM
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This doesn't really count as personal information, but here's another post from the same guy, on an audio forum:
Seems as though he's just EXTREME, all the TIME.
Originally Posted by zeleuo
The AVERAGE human ear perceives frequencies from 20 to 20,000hz.
Audiophiles hear even more.One right here.
To answer your question correctly it would depend on who you are,& how you hear.
Beyond that even though MOST people don't hear below 20hz that doesn't mean that frequencies below 20hz aren't perceived by even the MOST average person.They're simply not heard.
A 18hz BagEnd will LITTERLY make most people HURL!!!
I'm not kidding if you're within 20' you'll puke UNCONTROLLABLY.
Although you may not hear below 20 get close enough,& you'll **** sure FEEL it!
YES FROM A BASS GUITAR
Audiophiles hear even more.One right here.
To answer your question correctly it would depend on who you are,& how you hear.
Beyond that even though MOST people don't hear below 20hz that doesn't mean that frequencies below 20hz aren't perceived by even the MOST average person.They're simply not heard.
A 18hz BagEnd will LITTERLY make most people HURL!!!
I'm not kidding if you're within 20' you'll puke UNCONTROLLABLY.
Although you may not hear below 20 get close enough,& you'll **** sure FEEL it!
YES FROM A BASS GUITAR
Originally Posted by zeleuo
Hey Tony,
Have you considered the recent Carvin BRX 1x18Ó? Although you're only wanting to go to 40hz she's tuned for 24hz so you'd have MORE than enough room for proper attenuation,& you'd be LOADED for Bear should you change your mind,or taste latter on.
Better to have it than not.
I don't relate to the Double Bass thing,but then again I don't Hunt with a Muzzleloader,wipe my Tail with a Corncob,or take my Deceased pets to the Taxidermist either.
However you are ABSOLUTELY correct in regards to FULL Bass transmission,in relation to Driver size.That's why so many Bassists are pleasantly surprised at the true FULLNESS,(that they've never heard before) of the humble Gstring once they play through one of the 12Ó Aguilar Cab's,(1x,2x,or 4x) for the first time.
The same holds true for the Larger strings.What the 12Ó does for the G,a 18Ó does for E.
4x10's are popular because Fender made them popular eons ago,& 15's are so popular because 10's are SO lacking.For some reason a LOT of people choose to live in the past,in spite of clear advancement.
The reality is 10's simply don't cut it!
So Buy,or Build your 18Ós.Run some SERIOUS wattage through em,Rearrange the Drummers Kit while he attempts to play it,Shake that SNOT Nosed Guitarist,(and his rig) clean off the stage,& unbolt ALL the seats in the first five rows.
Ignore the Micro Minded.YouŐre a Bassist,not a Tenor so play Bass Tones!!!:devilr:
Have you considered the recent Carvin BRX 1x18Ó? Although you're only wanting to go to 40hz she's tuned for 24hz so you'd have MORE than enough room for proper attenuation,& you'd be LOADED for Bear should you change your mind,or taste latter on.
Better to have it than not.
I don't relate to the Double Bass thing,but then again I don't Hunt with a Muzzleloader,wipe my Tail with a Corncob,or take my Deceased pets to the Taxidermist either.
However you are ABSOLUTELY correct in regards to FULL Bass transmission,in relation to Driver size.That's why so many Bassists are pleasantly surprised at the true FULLNESS,(that they've never heard before) of the humble Gstring once they play through one of the 12Ó Aguilar Cab's,(1x,2x,or 4x) for the first time.
The same holds true for the Larger strings.What the 12Ó does for the G,a 18Ó does for E.
4x10's are popular because Fender made them popular eons ago,& 15's are so popular because 10's are SO lacking.For some reason a LOT of people choose to live in the past,in spite of clear advancement.
The reality is 10's simply don't cut it!
So Buy,or Build your 18Ós.Run some SERIOUS wattage through em,Rearrange the Drummers Kit while he attempts to play it,Shake that SNOT Nosed Guitarist,(and his rig) clean off the stage,& unbolt ALL the seats in the first five rows.
Ignore the Micro Minded.YouŐre a Bassist,not a Tenor so play Bass Tones!!!:devilr:
Last edited by LorenzoNF; 08-17-09 at 01:35 PM. Reason: added more EXTREMENESS
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I MISSED this one first time through. THANKS to the person who bumped this back to the FRONTBURNER.
My Monday somehow seems better now.
My Monday somehow seems better now.
01-21-10, 11:28 PM
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Probably will.
01-28-10, 07:53 AM
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So did the OP ever find the tires he SO desperately sought? Enquiring minds WANT to KNOW!
NOW!
NOW!
01-28-10, 08:25 AM
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Vredestein Fortezza SuperLite Road Tire doesn't mention any special belts to resist punctures. I like the Conti GP4000 with the Vectran belt which is suppose to be better against punctures and lighter then kevlar and so far I believe it. But no tire is bullet proof not even the heavy Specialized Armadillo All Condition Pro. the Conti is only about 10 to 20 grams heavier then the Vredestein Superlite.
01-28-10, 11:18 AM
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Whatevs.
I've gone through numerous Contis including the 3000s and 4000s, and numerous Vredestein Fortezza SuperLites, under the same riding conditions, year in and year out. The vreds beat the contis for puncture resistance and flatting... substantially. The comparison, in my riiding conditions, is not even close.
I've done this "discussion" with conti lovers so many times here at bikeforums, I've grown to not give two shts if anybody believes my experience or not.
Zeleuo did, and that's all that counts.
Edit to add:
I hope Zeleuo's out there SLAMDANCING on a set RIGHT NOW!!!!! If you're reading this Zeleuo, ROCK ON!!! brother, ROCK ON!!!
I've gone through numerous Contis including the 3000s and 4000s, and numerous Vredestein Fortezza SuperLites, under the same riding conditions, year in and year out. The vreds beat the contis for puncture resistance and flatting... substantially. The comparison, in my riiding conditions, is not even close.
I've done this "discussion" with conti lovers so many times here at bikeforums, I've grown to not give two shts if anybody believes my experience or not.
Zeleuo did, and that's all that counts.
Edit to add:
I hope Zeleuo's out there SLAMDANCING on a set RIGHT NOW!!!!! If you're reading this Zeleuo, ROCK ON!!! brother, ROCK ON!!!
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Spike: I wasn't coming against you nor mentioned I didn't believe you; I never used the Verds, but I did go their web site and they either failed to mention or don't use any internal belts for flat protection. "IF" they don't use any protection belts then why is their tire better then the Conti that does use a protection belt? Perhaps you can shed some light on this rather then getting all pissy about what someone else says or thinks. Personally I never liked Conti's either but so far these GP4000's with Vectran belt seems to be doing the trick.
01-28-10, 01:36 PM
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Spike: I wasn't coming against you nor mentioned I didn't believe you; I never used the Verds, but I did go their web site and they either failed to mention or don't use any internal belts for flat protection. "IF" they don't use any protection belts then why is their tire better then the Conti that does use a protection belt? Perhaps you can shed some light on this rather then getting all pissy about what someone else says or thinks. Personally I never liked Conti's either but so far these GP4000's with Vectran belt seems to be doing the trick.
After being a conti GP fan for many years, I was expecting the vreds, which I bought for the light weight, to be only slightly better at not flatting than the conti supersonics I ran occasionally on fast rides, which is to say, I set out on the vreds at first with two spare tubes and a fresh patch kit.
Lo and behold, even when I ran the vreds down to the threads, literally, they held up better on glass, stones, thorns, pot holes, hard cornering and emergency stops than the conti 4000s ever did, by a long shot.
All I can figure is that the toughness of the vreds has something to do with the rubber they use, thread composition, high TPI (threads per inch), and maybe thread bias or other construction features.
(Knock on wood.)
ROCK ON, BROTHER froze!!!!
01-28-10, 01:42 PM
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Thanks for bumping this...awesome!
New drinking game... every time you see a word in CAPS, take a shot!
(All caps messages don't count!)
New drinking game... every time you see a word in CAPS, take a shot!
(All caps messages don't count!)
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But the next time I need a tire I might as well try the Verds. I did use the Supersonics once for a race, but they were really only good for one race, but I kind of knew that when I bought them, personally for racing purposes I liked the Torelli which use to weigh the same as the Supersonics but lasted longer and seemed to be less susceptible to flats. I haven't used the newer versions of the Torelli since I no longer race so can't report on those, but have heard from others that do race that the Velo Flex Record is better then the Supersonics.
By the way I do rock on at home, after all my belief is that if it's too loud your too old! Which makes my wife too old.
By the way I do rock on at home, after all my belief is that if it's too loud your too old! Which makes my wife too old.
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But the next time I need a tire I might as well try the Verds. I did use the Supersonics once for a race, but they were really only good for one race, but I kind of knew that when I bought them, personally for racing purposes I liked the Torelli which use to weigh the same as the Supersonics but lasted longer and seemed to be less susceptible to flats. I haven't used the newer versions of the Torelli since I no longer race so can't report on those, but have heard from others that do race that the Velo Flex Record is better then the Supersonics.
By the way I do rock on at home, after all my belief is that if it's too loud your too old! Which makes my wife too old.
By the way I do rock on at home, after all my belief is that if it's too loud your too old! Which makes my wife too old.
by the way you have to have at least one word in all caps to PROPERLY reply to this thread.
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this post really makes me want to chug some mountain dew.....I have no idea why