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Upgrading my bike make me faster?

Old 07-09-09, 06:27 AM
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Upgrading my bike make me faster?

Lots of posts start off this way or requests for what bike is better, what parts are better. Doesnt make much difference what you are riding really. Probably more important is if you had a good meal the night before or several hours before your ride. I did a group ride, first of the year last weekend. My training up till then was 15-20 mile rides at about 2 or 3 times a week. My bike, a 1960's racer with a hodge podge of parts including steel rimmed wheels, and clipless, as in no toeclips or cleats, pedals. No problem keeping pace with the group at 22-25 MPH. So its not about the bike, the latest gizmos, Sram vs. Durra Ace, whatever. Fancy wheels, more gears, compact this or that, isnt going to make you any faster.

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Sheesh... steel rims? If you're that fast (if you're riding enough to be fast), get a better bike.
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Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
Lots of posts start off this way or requests for what bike is better, what parts are better. Doesnt make much difference what you are riding really. Probably more important is if you had a good meal the night before or several hours before your ride. I did a group ride, first of the year last weekend. My training up till then was 15-20 mile rides at about 2 or 3 times a week. My bike, a 1960's racer with a hodge podge of parts including steel rimmed wheels, and clipless, as in no toeclips or cleats, pedals. No problem keeping pace with the group at 22-25 MPH. So its not about the bike, the latest gizmos, Sram vs. Durra Ace, whatever. Fancy wheels, more gears, compact this or that, isnt going to make you any faster.

Ride on.
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Sheesh... steel rims? If you're that fast (if you're riding enough to be fast), get a better bike.
Steel rimmed wheels from a Peugeot UO-8. The rims have a seriated braking surface which makes for some good noise making when I hit the brakes. Chromies dude.
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I have those same wheels. They suck. Especially if wet outside. Do yourself a favor and upgrade; it sounds like you deserve it.
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Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
Lots of posts start off this way or requests for what bike is better, what parts are better. Doesnt make much difference what you are riding really. Probably more important is if you had a good meal the night before or several hours before your ride. I did a group ride, first of the year last weekend. My training up till then was 15-20 mile rides at about 2 or 3 times a week. My bike, a 1960's racer with a hodge podge of parts including steel rimmed wheels, and clipless, as in no toeclips or cleats, pedals. No problem keeping pace with the group at 22-25 MPH. So its not about the bike, the latest gizmos, Sram vs. Durra Ace, whatever. Fancy wheels, more gears, compact this or that, isnt going to make you any faster.

Ride on.

The fallacy in your argument is that just because you can keep up with a group at 22-25mph on your old bike, only says that you are a reasonably strong cyclist. It says nothing about whether you would be faster on a more madern bike.

It is a virtual certainty that you would be faster on a modern bike. A 1960's bike with steel rimmed wheels is likely to weigh close to 30lbs. Mid priced modern bike at 17lbs will make a quantifiable difference. Smaller, but still important will be the efficiency advantages from more aero wheels, lighter wheels, a secure pedaling system (either clipless or toe clips and cleats), being in the most efficient gear, with more cogs, and STI, better bearings, better tires, etc.

It's cleary possible to ride at a good clip with most any bike in good working order. That by no means says you won't be faster on a better bike. And while the performance returns on some upgrades is minimal, in your example at the extreme, the improvements would be measured in minutes not seconds.
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Post up a data file from a computer/gps showing the avg speed or it didn't happen
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Uh, oh!
We have another JoeyBike in the making.
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Go do a climbing century with about 10,000 feet of gain on your old bike, then do it again on a modern bike and see.
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Actually just a curmudgeon from C&V baiting us.
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Originally Posted by big john View Post
Go do a climbing century with about 10,000 feet of gain on your old bike, then do it again on a modern bike and see.
And if it rains on the descent, we *really* need video to see how those steel rims work out.
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Bu... But I just spent a load on a new fancy bike! Dang...
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you draft right and you get to save 50% of your effort.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
Actually just a curmudgeon from C&V baiting us.
Well, basically.


"Go do a climbing century with about 10,000 feet of gain on your old bike, then do it again on a modern bike and see. "

Ya, I'm a flatlander from Illinois. That would be noticable.


"you draft right and you get to save 50% of your effort. "

I'm good at that. I get right up on the wheel in front of me. (Insert best Jackie Stewert impression)"Its called drafting, and at Taladega, you are literally sucked around the track."
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Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
Doesnt make much difference what you are riding really.
It does if you ride a 1960's racer with a hodge podge of parts including steel rimmed wheels, and clipless, as in no toeclips or cleats, pedals.
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Umm. . . Good for you?
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg View Post
Post up a data file from a computer/gps showing the avg speed or it didn't happen
+1 ... wait, let me guess no computer on the 1960's beast?
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Originally Posted by UGASkiDawg View Post
Post up a data file from a computer/gps showing the avg speed or it didn't happen
yeah i call BS too.
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Post up a data file? What? This Sunday I'll take some pics of the ride.

Anyway the real point of the post was to relate that a a particular brand part or mega buck set of wheels isnt going to make you faster. You can ride a simple 10 speed bike with steel wheels and still keep up with the gearheads.
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Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
Anyway the real point of the post was to relate that a a particular brand part or mega buck set of wheels isnt going to make you faster. You can ride a simple 10 speed bike with steel wheels and still keep up with the gearheads.
That depends...
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I'm sorry.

This isn't moving the needle on the "So What?" meter, at all.

Nope, not even a little bit. Needs more relevance to, well, just about anything.
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Misleading title to your post.
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