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Old 07-09-09, 02:00 PM
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Shopping list - opinions

Hey everyone, trying to figure out my shopping list for the next couple weeks/months. Was wondering if anyone had any input on various items. Now a little lead in to the list... Attempted Cliff Notes at bottom.

In under 30 miles, I've gotten two flats on my rear. They're rim tape related. Stock tape that came on my CAAD9 (Shimano r500s) keeps sliding in the rear and the tube is getting caught on holes.

My plan was to ride these wheels for a while and buy a pair of race wheels over the winter months since in the spring I'll be doing some collegiate races. Now there is at least one local race I'm doing, so I was going to wear these Maxxis tires out before I swapped on some training ones. Thinking of grabbing some Conti Gator Skins (should I go with 23s again or since they'll be strictly training, get 25s?). I'll use the tubes I have now which seem to be working well other than the stupid rim tape flats. If anyone has another recommendation for a nice training tire, please let me know. Budget is around $50-$60 or so for these.

I was thinking of getting some Michelin Lithions for all around use in case I wanted to ride a couple days on the race wheels. But now I'm thinking of maybe getting some PR3s when PBK has a sale on them and just using the stock wheels and leaving the race ones only for racing. Budget again is around $50-$60.

For new rim tape on both my training and race wheels I was going to get Velox since everyone says it is the best. For tubes I was thinking about getting some Vittoria Ultralights, because once again, good reviews here on BF. No budget really, just going to buy when on sale.

For the race wheels, I haven't really decided, though I am pretty sure they will end up being Soul 3.0s or Soul 4.0s. As has been said in many threads, go for the areo, so I guess in that regard the 4.0s are the ones to get. Any advice here is great. I live in central PA so there aren't too many mountains but the terrain is hardly ever perfectly flat. Lots of rolling hills and a few decent climbs. My concern with the 4.0s were the amount of aero and if they would blow me over since I only weigh 135lbs. But a fellow member said I would be fine, just don't ride with no hands in strong cross winds . Budget for wheels is probably around $500.

Now I am also in the market for a new floor pump and was wondering what to go with there. There are the $15 dollar Nashbar ones and then there are the various Topeak/Joe Blow ones that everyone recommends. If I went with a Joe Blow, I was thinking about the Sport which I have seen is generally well liked by fellow BFers. Budget would probably be $40.

Along with floor pumps, I'm going to try and find a work stand since I'll be in an apartment next year and I won't have the use of my garage that I do here at home. As far as workstands go, I really am not sure of which one to get. Along with the workstand, I'm debating buying a tool kit like the Nashbar Pro Kit which has about everything I could need. Once again, opinions on tools are greatly appreciated. Workstand budget of around $70-80 and tool budget probably around the price of that Nashbar kit, $70-80.

Sorry for the long post, but I have been debating these things for a while and reading as many threads as I can about each of those topics. Also, like I said, I won't be buying this stuff all at once.

Here's an attempt at Cliff Notes:

Training Tire: Conti Gator Skin (or another option if you have one)
Race Tire: Michelin PR3 or Michelin Lithion (or another option if you have one)
Race Wheels: Soul3.0 or Soul4.0 (or another option if you have one)
Tubes: Vitoria Ultralight (or another option if you have one)
Workstand: Any advice needed here, no idea what to get
Pump: Cheap Nashbar or Joe Blow Sport (or another option if you have one)
Tools: Nasbar Pro Kit (or another option if you have one)

Thanks in advance BF.
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Stores must love people like you! I'd just cough up the $2 for better rim tape myself.
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you needn't ask for other options, this is bikeforums.net, you'd get them regardless.

Gator Skin or Even Lithions are good for training, you could even race on the litions, but if you want separate tires then get lithions for training and pr3's for racing.

If you're racing crits then souls will be fine because they're cheap but in a crit aero doesn't privide much advantage, a lighter wheel that can spin up fast and take abuse is your best option. For road races, something aero would be fine but I'd rather go for a more quality wheel than the bikeforum represented Soul brand. Get a set of eastons or something you know you can trust.

I have the cheapest of Park's workstands the PCS-9 I think, it works great it was only like $100.

I've used a cheap nashbar pump for years. They all put the same air in the tire... Although a good pump is nice too.

*Disclaimer, I only read the clif notes...
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Originally Posted by msincredible View Post
stores must love people like you! I'd just cough up the $2 for better rim tape myself.
Velox

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On one of my bikes I had several flats in a short period of time with Kenda tires (forget the model) and stock rim tape. Replaced them with Gator Skins and Velox and they were impenetrable - well over 1.5K miles with zero flats.

For a pump, I've been using a Joe Blow Sport for over 2 years with no issues.

I've been thinking about picking up a Park PCS-9 to replace my cheapo that I got at Performance that pinches the cables and doesn't fit all styles/sizes of frames...

For a tool kit, I got the Basic Nashbar kit and added a few things separately, so the Pro kit should be more complete. I'm not sure how it stacks up against the offerings from Park (the gold standard), but for the budget-conscious and for light duty, I imagine it'll be fine.
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Be aware that some of the Nashbar tools are probably going to be single use items. This can significantly impact the "savings" of going with them vs. Park.
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Originally Posted by msincredible View Post
Stores must love people like you! I'd just cough up the $2 for better rim tape myself.
Haha, not really. I'm the kind of shopper where I look around FOREVER for the best price and then eventually I get tired of looking and researching and go for wherever I found it the cheapest.

Originally Posted by entukay View Post
you needn't ask for other options, this is bikeforums.net, you'd get them regardless.

Gator Skin or Even Lithions are good for training, you could even race on the litions, but if you want separate tires then get lithions for training and pr3's for racing.

If you're racing crits then souls will be fine because they're cheap but in a crit aero doesn't privide much advantage, a lighter wheel that can spin up fast and take abuse is your best option. For road races, something aero would be fine but I'd rather go for a more quality wheel than the bikeforum represented Soul brand. Get a set of eastons or something you know you can trust.

I have the cheapest of Park's workstands the PCS-9 I think, it works great it was only like $100.

I've used a cheap nashbar pump for years. They all put the same air in the tire... Although a good pump is nice too.

*Disclaimer, I only read the clif notes...
Yeah, I've got a while to decide on wheels, plan on using it, haha.

I'll check out that Park stand, seems like a good price.

Yeah, I can't really see spending so much for a pump when there are cheap ones that work just as well.

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Velox

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Yup, absolutely getting Velox!
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Originally Posted by RahTx View Post
On one of my bikes I had several flats in a short period of time with Kenda tires (forget the model) and stock rim tape. Replaced them with Gator Skins and Velox and they were impenetrable - well over 1.5K miles with zero flats.

For a pump, I've been using a Joe Blow Sport for over 2 years with no issues.

I've been thinking about picking up a Park PCS-9 to replace my cheapo that I got at Performance that pinches the cables and doesn't fit all styles/sizes of frames...

For a tool kit, I got the Basic Nashbar kit and added a few things separately, so the Pro kit should be more complete. I'm not sure how it stacks up against the offerings from Park (the gold standard), but for the budget-conscious and for light duty, I imagine it'll be fine.
Yeah, that's what I'm looking for. Reliable training wheel/etc. setup.

I'll look into the Joe Blow Sport some more, see if I can find it any cheaper.

The Pro Kit has a couple other things, probably the stuff that you added, haha.

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Be aware that some of the Nashbar tools are probably going to be single use items. This can significantly impact the "savings" of going with them vs. Park.
Oh yeah, this is very true. I'll look into Park Tools more. Sounds like the much better way to go. Craftsman tools of the bike world.
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