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Old 07-24-09, 09:44 AM
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Good climbing bike?

I come from a triathlon background and have almost always used a road bike (usually Trek) with a forward seatpost and aerobars. All the riding and racing I do is extremely hilly! I've been on this set-up for 20 years on various bikes; the seasons with a dedicated tri-bike was not that great.

I would consider myself a good climber and am lean. I know that posts like this usually get answered with comments like, "Buy the bike that fits," or, "Train more on hills," or "Lose weight." I know all that stuff and follow it.

I am looking for options now. Trek Madone has generally gone with a seat mast that won't let me get as far forward as I would like. What are the opinions on Trek aluminum (2300) or any other "road bikes" (Specialized, Giant, Felt, etc.) that will still be light and allow me to get forward?

Thanks for the insights!

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Climbing is the best thing you can do to improve your ability to ascend on a bike, sure a lighter bike can help a bit but in the end it's about the effort you put into training.
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Sounds like the bike is too big if you need to set the seat that far forward.

Of course,you could always get a different seatpost.
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If you really want to feel a difference in climbing, maybe try new wheels? that might be better then, losing 4 pounds on a bike
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Old 07-24-09, 11:38 AM
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IT'S ME AGAIN -- THE ORIGINAL POSTER. As I stated above, I'm just looking for options. I'm in the market for a new bike and I don't want to automatically go back to Trek because it's status quo for me. I may not have completely maxed out my training but it's close to it; any extra weight I carry is a little muscle in my shoulders from swimming. I'll take care of the training and weight management myself. I'm talking about bikes here.

Why is it so difficult for people to say, "I ride (______) and it's a great bike.... stiff, light, climbs well, and has a normal seatpost."

There have been some good ideas here (e.g., wheels) but I hope some of the other replies don't kill this thread or my question.

THANKS!



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I come from a triathlon background and have almost always used a road bike (usually Trek) with a forward seatpost and aerobars. All the riding and racing I do is extremely hilly! I've been on this set-up for 20 years on various bikes; the seasons with a dedicated tri-bike was not that great.

I would consider myself a good climber and am lean. I know that posts like this usually get answered with comments like, "Buy the bike that fits," or, "Train more on hills," or "Lose weight." I know all that stuff and follow it.

I am looking for options now. Trek Madone has generally gone with a seat mast that won't let me get as far forward as I would like. What are the opinions on Trek aluminum (2300) or any other "road bikes" (Specialized, Giant, Felt, etc.) that will still be light and allow me to get forward?

Thanks for the insights!

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Originally Posted by toj View Post
I come from a triathlon background and have almost always used a road bike (usually Trek) with a forward seatpost and aerobars. All the riding and racing I do is extremely hilly! I've been on this set-up for 20 years on various bikes; the seasons with a dedicated tri-bike was not that great.

I would consider myself a good climber and am lean. I know that posts like this usually get answered with comments like, "Buy the bike that fits," or, "Train more on hills," or "Lose weight." I know all that stuff and follow it.

I am looking for options now. Trek Madone has generally gone with a seat mast that won't let me get as far forward as I would like. What are the opinions on Trek aluminum (2300) or any other "road bikes" (Specialized, Giant, Felt, etc.) that will still be light and allow me to get forward?

Thanks for the insights!

Ray
Isn't there a zero offset mast option for the Madone?
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Originally Posted by toj View Post
IT'S ME AGAIN -- THE ORIGINAL POSTER. As I stated above, I'm just looking for options. I'm in the market for a new bike and I don't want to automatically go back to Trek because it's status quo for me. I may not have completely maxed out my training but it's close to it; any extra weight I carry is a little muscle in my shoulders from swimming. I'll take care of the training and weight management myself. I'm talking about bikes here.

Why is it so difficult for people to say, "I ride (______) and it's a great bike.... stiff, light, climbs well, and has a normal seatpost."

There have been some good ideas here (e.g., wheels) but I hope some of the other replies don't kill this thread or my question.

THANKS!

because it is not about the bike. all people will do is say I have X and I like it. Is that what you want? If so go to the what road bike do you have thread.
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It looks like you're really asking for a recommendation on a special make/model so I'll say...Cervelo R3. I love climbing on that bike.
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Originally Posted by toj View Post
IT'S ME AGAIN -- THE ORIGINAL POSTER. As I stated above, I'm just looking for options. I'm in the market for a new bike and I don't want to automatically go back to Trek because it's status quo for me. I may not have completely maxed out my training but it's close to it; any extra weight I carry is a little muscle in my shoulders from swimming. I'll take care of the training and weight management myself. I'm talking about bikes here.

Why is it so difficult for people to say, "I ride (______) and it's a great bike.... stiff, light, climbs well, and has a normal seatpost."

There have been some good ideas here (e.g., wheels) but I hope some of the other replies don't kill this thread or my question.

THANKS!
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You obviously need a Pinarello Prince.
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This would be the best bike for climbing that I can think of.



When it starts to get too easy, just add weight in the baskets.
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Old 07-24-09, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by toj View Post
I come from a triathlon background and have almost always used a road bike (usually Trek) with a forward seatpost and aerobars. All the riding and racing I do is extremely hilly! I've been on this set-up for 20 years on various bikes; the seasons with a dedicated tri-bike was not that great.

I would consider myself a good climber and am lean. I know that posts like this usually get answered with comments like, "Buy the bike that fits," or, "Train more on hills," or "Lose weight." I know all that stuff and follow it.

I am looking for options now. Trek Madone has generally gone with a seat mast that won't let me get as far forward as I would like. What are the opinions on Trek aluminum (2300) or any other "road bikes" (Specialized, Giant, Felt, etc.) that will still be light and allow me to get forward?

Thanks for the insights!

Ray
I always slide back in the saddle when climbing.
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Old 07-24-09, 01:34 PM
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A good climbing bike is at the opposite end of the spectrum from a tri/TT specific bike.
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I ride a Cannondale System Six and love it for all types of riding...its last model year was 2008...for this bike or many others, you could put on a forward seat post or a straight seat post and likely find one to your liking...I've tested the R3, which someone mentioned above, and I found it to be a great bike when I tried it out...I suspect that many bikes are going to be great for you...
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I think a Look 595 would suit the OP just fine.

The Ridley Noah is nice, also.
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Outside magazine had a recent issue

and online in which they reviewed some 25 roadbikes and they made comments about the bikes and what they were best for given their set up. I recall they liked a few bikes for climbing like the GT sport because it had a small crank. Visit their site.
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Best Climbing bike?

The one Contador's on seems to work well.

Seriously, it sounds like a Cervelo S3, with a Cervelo reversible seatpost would fit what you want.

With the seat post forward you get an effective 76 degree seat tube, and the bike itself is close to being as aero as most TT bikes.

I would get the S3 over the R3, for triathlon use, even if it is a touch heavier.
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Here's a run-down of bikes that I know are made to climb well (amongst other things, of course) (and this list is by no means meant to be exhaustive):

Scott Addict
Ridley Helium
Felt F1
BH G4
Specialized Tarmac Sl2
Cervelo R3SL
Trek Madone 6 series
Cannondale SuperSix
Look 586

I would happily climb on any one of these. This list should keep you busy.
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I have a Tarmac Expert (standard crank) and a Roubaix Expert (compact crank). The Tarmac climbs better. Is it the bike or the wheels, not certain? All I know is that I do feel the power transfer of the Tarmac compared to Roubaix.

BTW, it's not just me...Wife notices the same thing...
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Isn't climbing ability of a bike more of a factor of the wheels than the bike itself? If two brands are identically spec'ed, but one has "climbing" wheels like the Zipp 202's, wont that one be a better climbing bike?
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Originally Posted by navyasw02 View Post
Isn't climbing ability of a bike more of a factor of the wheels than the bike itself? If two brands are identically spec'ed, but one has "climbing" wheels like the Zipp 202's, wont that one be a better climbing bike?
Just add some Reynolds Dv46tul's to any of the bikes I've got listed above and you have a $10,000 climbing machine.
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