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Old 07-30-09, 10:19 PM
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Help me spend my money.

Alright...three things I need that I've come up with. Can only afford one right now, but I can't decide which.

1. Garmin Edge 305. No computer at all right now. Not hindering me too much. I'm fairly new to the sport and basically just riding my ass off to get a good level of aerobic fitness before I start a real, concerted training plan.

2. Nice bibs and another jersey...probably Castelli. All my stuff is cheapish PI right now. And I don't have very much stuff, so I have to wash it all fairly often. More would be convenient.

3. New Saddle. Still riding the stock saddle on my Scott CR1...I hate it. 3 weeks and I'm still getting a saddle sore in one spot.

Which would you go for if you could only get one right now?
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Old 07-30-09, 11:14 PM
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You can do two by cutting back on #1. Get a cheaper computer (so you can at least track your miles), and invest in a top of the line saddle.
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Old 07-30-09, 11:45 PM
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+1

The 305 is great but you could buy a regular computer, bibs and a good saddle for the same price.
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Old 07-30-09, 11:55 PM
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+2 - and trust me, I have a Garmin and I'm not putting it down. But priority-wise, get a saddle and you can get a much much cheaper comp for well within the 305 price, most likely even adding the bibs.
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Old 07-31-09, 06:24 AM
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What price are you guys looking at on the 305? Refurbs are right about $200, which is the same price as most of the saddles I'm looking at.
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Old 07-31-09, 06:32 AM
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I would go Saddle, Bibs, then the computer. Better yet, just get a $30 sigma and just log your miles in Excel or *gasp* with paper and pen

A bad saddle will make even Assos feel bad
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Old 07-31-09, 06:45 AM
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Just as a note, the computer is more for HR and cadence than mileage. I'm pretty terrible at trying to count heart beats or pedal revolutions while keeping track of seconds.

I already know and track my mileage (approximately). I'm not overly fond of the idea of buying a crappy computer that I'm just going to throw out when I get the one I really want.
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Old 07-31-09, 06:47 AM
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Well, you probablly won't be able to use a comp to do any HR training or log many miles if your bum is in too much pain to ride. Saddle, no brainer.
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Old 07-31-09, 07:03 AM
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What they all said.

Saddle and $45 cateye w/ wired cadence. That'll have you riding well into the winter sales on bibs and research which Garmin best suits your needs.
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Old 07-31-09, 07:12 AM
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+ 1 for a new saddle.

The Nashbar R2 is just $ 29. and the GR2 is $ 34.99

R2:


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Old 07-31-09, 07:21 AM
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Might not want to order from Nashbar due to their constant credit card security issues. Any way, I would get a good saddle first, because you are not going to enjoy that 305 or your bike if your butt hurts.
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Old 07-31-09, 07:40 AM
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Thanks for the advice guys. Saddle shopping today.
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Originally Posted by msh1283 View Post
Thanks for the advice guys. Saddle shopping today.
Many saddle issues are actually caused by poor bike fit, ie. saddle angle, seat height, distance from bars. Just sayin before you invest in a saddle sinking fund to find the right one.
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Old 07-31-09, 08:31 AM
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Comfort first.
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+1 on the saddle

i just got my 305 and i like it, but unless you have the extra cash to spend to see the pretty graphs and log numbers to see progress, i'd just stay without one. i thought about buying a cheap one, but i know what i wanted in one (HR and cadence).

for bibs and jersey's check out backcountryoutlet.com . they're the store where bonktown.com and chainlove.com get their stuff (also monitor those sites for the 30-minute specials). i just bought a ZIPP jersey and ZIPP bib for about $75 (for both) and they fit well. i will not be buying any more shorts - bibs ftw!

btw, this is my saddle: (the 130)


although it doesn't look that comfortable, it is. a lot of what had to do with the comfort was the thickness of the shorts and playing with the fit. it took me a long time to realize that i should be placing my butt-bones on the wider parts of the saddle instead of my whole butt and grundle area.

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Old 07-31-09, 09:28 AM
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buy whatever will help you to ride more. If it's mroe shorts -- do it. If it's a new saddle-- do it. If you're looking for the extra motivation a computer gives you -- do it.
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Old 07-31-09, 09:58 AM
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Just a hunch:

Most saddle sore problems can be addressed with a good pair of shorts and some chamois cream. I'd start with a nice pair of bibs and some of this:



If that does the trick, you won't have to spend $$ on a new saddle.

Speaking of bibs, Voler is selling theirs for $49.95:

http://www.velowear.com/products/1110245BLKXSM.aspx

Excellent quality at a great price. I picked up a couple pair for when I'm not wearing the company kit.
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No brainer with this one: saddle and some comfy bibs. I've been meaning to get a 305 but have put it off and if I had to choose comfort over a 305 I would do it in a heart beat.
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Originally Posted by bikeybikebike View Post
buy whatever will help you to ride more. If it's mroe shorts -- do it. If it's a new saddle-- do it. If you're looking for the extra motivation a computer gives you -- do it.
that's a very good point, it's quite simple and direct, yet often not apparent - good advice!
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Originally Posted by msh1283 View Post
Just as a note, the computer is more for HR and cadence than mileage. I'm pretty terrible at trying to count heart beats or pedal revolutions while keeping track of seconds.

I already know and track my mileage (approximately). I'm not overly fond of the idea of buying a crappy computer that I'm just going to throw out when I get the one I really want.
Probably the cheapest computer you can get with cadence, speed, and distance is the Cateye Strada Cadence, I think it's around $50. The precursor to it is the Astrale 8. I have two that have been working perfectly for about 4 years - they are NOT crap, though after four years they are worthless in $$. I also use an old Polar A5 HR monitor. I write down the info after a ride - you really don't NEED a download or a route track.

If you can't ride long due to comfort, you worn't have any date to download. Fix the saddle, then the shorts, then get a low-cost computer.

You can also just go without any computer or HRM, and just base your assessments on how you feel, at least until you get more bucks. You can put that $$ into a basic fitting with assistance in trying out saddles. You'll learn something about bike setup as a result, such as suitable handlebar placement.
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Old 07-31-09, 10:37 AM
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New saddle for sure. SMP is my favorite brand. Simply fits me the best.
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