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Old 07-31-09, 02:29 PM
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cycling vs. profession - more important?

I thoroughly enjoy what I do to pay my bills, live, eat, survive. I really do. But, I find that I have a great deal more enthusiasm and interest in cycling, at least at this point in my life. Sometimes I almost feel guilty, wondering if I should cut back on my cycling interests and spend more time thinking/doing/working at my profession. (I'm not saying I ditch work, but the first thing I think about in the morning is the riding I'll be doing that day, not what I have to get done in terms of work) I have colleagues that do nothing but work, drink coffee, work, coffee. I feel as if I hardly have anything in common with them, almost like I'm some odd outsider (well, I'm over 12 and riding a bicycle, so I had better get used to it)

Does anyone else feel this way?

I have friends that have jobs with crazier hours, such as doctors in residency and some of them haven't even gone for a walk in a year or two, due to how busy they are.

I don't have a wife or children, so I know that things might change when I have less time to myself. I just have a girlfriend and some cats

Anyway, I'm wondering if I should just go with the flow and have fun, or if my priorities are out of balance. I take care of my work and responsibilities, I just do wonder if I'm spending too much time and energy on cycling, considering friends I have (such as those in residency) who don't do anything else aside from working. I don't want an 80 hour a week job. I guess this is nothing new and some people are going to work non-stop, while others prefer a balance between work and leisure. As I said, I just sometimes feel guilty when I'm around colleagues and all they talk about is work, while I'm thinking about where I'll ride later that day, or what part I need to fix/replace. But, I also feel sorry for some of them, because they have nothing beyond the job. Additionally, I am more productive when I have secondary pursuits, as it forces me to structure my time.
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Old 07-31-09, 02:35 PM
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work is work. i would never want work to be all that i had. give me family, give my cycling, give me beers. you can keep work. ride on as you are normal. later.
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If you are able to take care of your responsibilities and still cycle as much as you like I say good for you. Your friends chose their careers and who care how much anyone else works.
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Ha, ha, ha...very true. Family/friends, cycling, beer. That is pretty much all I could ask for!

I don't really feel that guilty, I just thought I see what others had to say. I do sometimes feel pretty weird though when I go to work social events and everyone is talking about work and I'd rather be talking about cycling or riding. But, then again, I think most of these people are pretty weird and quite one-dimensional, something I don't want at all.

I played college sports though and sports always were a bit more important than academics. I thought I'd get over that. Now I've found cycling and work is in the backseat to cycling. Jeez...

I will work eight or so hours a day, ride for two. Then I'll have friends tell me they worked for 10-12 and I'll think, "Hmm, should I be riding less?" It is usually just a passing thought.
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Right on, I Like...yep, everyone makes choices and I'm happy with mine. Again, just thought I see what the other cycling enthusiasts had to say, as telling most people you ride for two hours a day blows minds really quickly.

I guess the only thing I'm really wondering about is if it is wrong that the first thing I think about (and last) is cycling NOT work. I am on top of my work, so I guess it doesn't matter, but sometimes I do feel slightly guilty that my profession is not the most important thing in my life. But...work is work, right? As long as you can keep the lights on, and afford that new bike
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Nah. You are fine.
I take care of my job so that I can support my family and my cycling habit. Occasionally, that means prioritizing it temporarily over the other two. However, it never stays that way for long. It is a balancing act for sure.
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Originally Posted by nayr497 View Post
Right on, I Like...yep, everyone makes choices and I'm happy with mine. Again, just thought I see what the other cycling enthusiasts had to say, as telling most people you ride for two hours a day blows minds really quickly.

I guess the only thing I'm really wondering about is if it is wrong that the first thing I think about (and last) is cycling NOT work. I am on top of my work, so I guess it doesn't matter, but sometimes I do feel slightly guilty that my profession is not the most important thing in my life. But...work is work, right? As long as you can keep the lights on, and afford that new bike
I sure hope not. That would be a sad sad.........Life.
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No one ever chose as their epitaph: "I wish I had worked more"
If you give your job your life, believe me, they will take it.
Enjoy your time on the bike... as much as you can.
It's so easy to lose sight of it
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Originally Posted by SaiKaiTai View Post
No one ever chose as their epitaph: "I wish I had worked more"
If you give your job your life, believe me, they will take it.
Enjoy your time on the bike... as much as you can.
It's so easy to lose sight of it
I like that epitaph. Let me be the first one to choose it. Now back to my nap.
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You might want to think about this more strategically, though: depending on your profession (if you have one, as opposed to "just a job"), your peers may be laying the groundwork for advancement that you could miss out on if you just focus on the moment. If you always only ever do just enough to get by, that's what you're going to get known for, and your career path just might be more limited.

That may be fine for now, but you have to weigh that against the greater number of options you'll have later in life (including more money) that comes from more success in your career. Then again, someone's carbon frame might just explode, catching the atmosphere on fire, and we're all fooked, making it all irrelevant anyway.
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When you're on your death bed, do you think you'll be saying I should have worked more? I don't think so...don't feel guilty.
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Great points about not looking back and wishing you had worked more.

But, Scott, also a very valid point to consider. I definitely am not doing "just enough," but more along the lines of I work hard, finish my work, do my best, and leave it at that for the day. Then I go out and ride. Some of my peers only ever do work, think about work, complain about work. Even at social events when drinking and meant to be having fun, they are talking about work or being *****y about other peers.

I definitely have been looking ahead and realize I need to indeed work hard now to create opportunities down the line. However, I also think I'm nicely positioned to work at a level that I desire and to earn a decent living doing it.

I'm guess what I'm getting at is should I be concerned that my passion at the moment is cycling, not my profession? I still take my profession seriously and work at it, but when talking to friends or in my free time, I'm not reading/talking about my job, but instead my last/closest ride.

I guess I'm kind of asking the wrong crowd, as most of us in here really love cycling and all that it offers, from health to spiritual benefits. I'm still relatively young (in my 20s) so maybe thought some older folks would chime in with wisdom. Right, I wouldn't want to limit my career options, but I should be pretty well set up for a happy life with a nice job that pays enough to live and buy bicycles. Again, just wondering if I needed to "realign" if my thoughts are always on cycling and not on my profession.
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Hence the juggling act. If you see an opportunity to advance your career jump on it.
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Many people Live to Work, and that's fine (until they're 'downsized)

May others Work to Live, doesn't mean you don't put in the effort, it means, it's a means to an end to support the things in life you really enjoy. All is good
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I have gone back and forth over the years- sometimes I feel like you do, where riding (or racing, or motorcycle racing) is more important to me and my job is just a job, albeit one I do well and with pride. Other times I have been in the middle of a fantastic project working with interesting people and advancing my career at a rapid pace, but not exercising and getting fat and slow. It all depends on my mood and what is going on in my life and my field.


Now that I have hit my late 40s I have pretty much peaked in my career. The logical next step from sr. software architect would be a CTO at a small company, and I'm just not interested... once the first product is shipped, its too outward facing and not enough about making software. Maybe when I hit my mid 50s I'll have a midlife crisis and decide to climb the next rung in the corporate ladder.

Your cow-orkers only talk about work because they don't have lives.
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Originally Posted by nayr497 View Post
I thoroughly enjoy what I do to pay my bills, live, eat, survive. I really do. But, I find that I have a great deal more enthusiasm and interest in cycling, at least at this point in my life. Sometimes I almost feel guilty, wondering if I should cut back on my cycling interests and spend more time thinking/doing/working at my profession. (I'm not saying I ditch work, but the first thing I think about in the morning is the riding I'll be doing that day, not what I have to get done in terms of work) I have colleagues that do nothing but work, drink coffee, work, coffee. I feel as if I hardly have anything in common with them, almost like I'm some odd outsider (well, I'm over 12 and riding a bicycle, so I had better get used to it)

Does anyone else feel this way?

I have friends that have jobs with crazier hours, such as doctors in residency and some of them haven't even gone for a walk in a year or two, due to how busy they are.

I don't have a wife or children, so I know that things might change when I have less time to myself. I just have a girlfriend and some cats

Anyway, I'm wondering if I should just go with the flow and have fun, or if my priorities are out of balance. I take care of my work and responsibilities, I just do wonder if I'm spending too much time and energy on cycling, considering friends I have (such as those in residency) who don't do anything else aside from working. I don't want an 80 hour a week job. I guess this is nothing new and some people are going to work non-stop, while others prefer a balance between work and leisure. As I said, I just sometimes feel guilty when I'm around colleagues and all they talk about is work, while I'm thinking about where I'll ride later that day, or what part I need to fix/replace. But, I also feel sorry for some of them, because they have nothing beyond the job. Additionally, I am more productive when I have secondary pursuits, as it forces me to structure my time.
Working sucks. If it was fun, it wouldnt be called work. Although I enjoy my job, but there's about a million other things I'd rather be doing with my time. I work hard and efficiently during my working hours so I can get home at a reasonable hour and do all the things I like doing. I also keep in perspective that its just 12 short years until I can retire and spend the rest of my life goofing off.

Edit: I've worked 100+ hour work weeks before and I'll never again let a job make me sacrifice my mental and physical health.
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You need more cycling friends and fewer work friends, , , , ,
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I feel you 100% my man.

I am currently trying to get a new job with better hours and less stress just so I can race and ride more. I am willing to make half of what I make just to be happy riding, yes HALF!

I am married with no children. My wife really supports me and she rides as well. She just wants to see me happy and working so much just isn't working out. I am willing to give up a six figure income at 36yrs old just so I can get more miles in. I sound like a nut case, but I bet I am not the only one. You only live once and I willing to take a big pay decrease to do what I love.

Cycling has really changed my views on a lot of things. I always had to have the nicest cars, boats, etc, now all I care about is clean water bottles, tires with some tread left and good weather. LOL.
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Don't feel sorry for your friends doing rrsidency. they're paying theirdues. and then a little longer as practice associates until they become partners. then until retirement they try to figure out how not to get consumed by their profession. What's worked for me is 1- not continually wanting more stuff, which leads to 2- taking time off, either a day or week at a time. I found that there's no such thing as a short day at work so I put in a full day or no day. good time to ride, enjoy family and anthing else not spelled w-o-r-k.
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work to live, dont live to work.
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All of life is a balance. Work, family, sport and other personal interests all have their place. The hard part is getting that balance right for you.
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If you work for someone else, then you trade your time for money. Keep thinking about riding...let work have its place. Life's not about work.
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Life's not about work.
My wife disagrees.
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Yea...

The OP pretty well described me. Luckily I'm married to a fellow cyclist so we are in the same boat and it makes it so easy to have life revolve around cycling.

I'm not sure about her, but I know that I work because I have to...Not because I want to. I cycle because I want to and that is the big difference!
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My wife disagrees.
If she also wants you to gain 25 pounds then you have a real problem.



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