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Trek 7300 tires

Old 07-31-09, 05:42 PM
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Trek 7300 tires

Last month I purchased a Trek 7300, very nice bike but the tires (Bontrager 700x35) seems heavy and slow. Can anyone recommended if I'm better with a 32 or 28 tire size (without changing rims) and what brand/type tires. I changing from biking around the neighhood stores to doing 23 miles paved roads for better exercise on the East Coast Greenway in NYC.
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Old 07-31-09, 07:25 PM
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Personally, I think most Bontrager components are crap, but this is an unsubstantiated opinion for the most part. I do, however, have experience with their tires and they're pretty bad. Get some continentals (pretty much anything from their line) and you'll be happy.
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Ahh, the joys of the Bontragher Invert's... LOL. They're heavy and they roll for crap.

Swapped a friends out to 28mm Bontrager Select K's since he didn't want to spend any $$ and he loves them. The Matrix rims however weren't happy seeing high pressure the first time in their life and had to be retrued. Fine after that and he's put about 400 miles on it since.
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Old 07-31-09, 09:33 PM
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I have the Trek 7200 and replaced the stock 700x35 with 700x28 Continental Ultra Gatorskins with no problems at all. The bike is faster, handles better, with no flats in 2500 miles.

Just stay away from sand/loose dirt if you decide to go this route.
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Old 07-31-09, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by crispy010 View Post
Personally, I think most Bontrager components are crap, but this is an unsubstantiated opinion for the most part.
At least you admit this is an unsubstantiated opinion. They are not crap! Best, easiest warranty in the biz, and quality on par or better than anyone.


Originally Posted by crispy010 View Post
I do, however, have experience with their tires and they're pretty bad.
Depends on the particular tire....like any company that sells a wide range of products, some tires are designed for low cost/price with durability and performance taking a back seat, while others are competitive with other best-in-class offerings. It is also important to take into account who is really making the tires. Vittoria still makes some of Bontrager's nicest tires-a re-badged Open CX type tire.

Originally Posted by crispy010 View Post
Get some continentals (pretty much anything from their line) and you'll be happy.

At my shop we sell what we ride, and we unanimously ride the GP4000s on our road bikes! But on our town bikes, we use the Bontrager Race Lite Hard Case tires. They wear like iron, and are ridiculously flat resistant.

Lastly, if the OP wanted to go fast, the right choice would've been a 7.3FX, not the luxo-barge 7300.
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Old 08-01-09, 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BikeWise1 View Post
Lastly, if the OP wanted to go fast, the right choice would've been a 7.3FX, not the luxo-barge 7300.
Semi-FAIL.

Fast would be a proper road bike. I've owned a 7100, 7.3FX and 1200 (now a 1.2) and found the FX to be unsatisfactory. It doesn't know what it is. None of the comfort of the 7XXX series and little of the road bike speed.
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Originally Posted by Bearonabike View Post
Semi-FAIL.

Fast would be a proper road bike. I've owned a 7100, 7.3FX and 1200 (now a 1.2) and found the FX to be unsatisfactory. It doesn't know what it is. None of the comfort of the 7XXX series and little of the road bike speed.
Of course the 7.3FX isn't going to be as fast of a bike as a true road bike, but it'll certainly be much faster than the 7xxx series, and a whole lot lighter in weight.

As for comfort, the FX series isn't too bad. But if you must have a plush ride, the 7xxx has that gawd-awful suspension seatpost and crappy front suspension fork on it. You'd be doing well to average more than 10mph on that bike, whereas on the FX 10mph is no problem.

To the OP: Give this tire a try:

http://www.bikeauthority.com/ablecom...0x32-P459.aspx

700x32 Race Lite. It's a slick tire that offers good durability and speed, while maintaining a bit of plushness. You can run up to 110psi in this tire to make it extremely smooth rolling.

I also recommend that you ditch the suspension seatpost. It won't make a huge impact on comfort, but it will allow you to put the power down a bit better and shed about a lb of weight compared to a normal aluminum or carbon fiber seatpost. I've setup a 7200, 7.3FX, etc. for family members and little changes, such as tires, aluminum/CF seatpost, etc. make a big difference in how a bike rides.

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Originally Posted by Bearonabike View Post
Semi-FAIL.

Fast would be a proper road bike.
Fast is relative!

I would accept as a foregone conclusion that someone who walks into a shop with the appetite and budget for a 7300 is not shopping for a road bike.

Originally Posted by Bearonabike View Post
I've owned a 7100, 7.3FX and 1200 (now a 1.2) and found the FX to be unsatisfactory. It doesn't know what it is. None of the comfort of the 7XXX series and little of the road bike speed.
The 7.3 and up FX bikes have evolved quite a bit in the last two years. I have several customers who ride them competitively in sprint distance multisport events by adding lighter tires and aero clip-ons. They didn't want drop bars, and when someone says "I do not want drop bars", I am not going to push them into a bike they don't want. :up:
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Originally Posted by BikeWise1 View Post
Fast is relative!

I would accept as a foregone conclusion that someone who walks into a shop with the appetite and budget for a 7300 is not shopping for a road bike.



The 7.3 and up FX bikes have evolved quite a bit in the last two years. I have several customers who ride them competitively in sprint distance multisport events by adding lighter tires and aero clip-ons.
They didn't want drop bars, and when someone says "I do not want drop bars", I am not going to push them into a bike they don't want. :up:
I bought a 7200 last year and rode the heck out of it. I still have it and have since added a rack, bar-ends, a Brooks B17. I didn't replace the tires but I'm going to as soon as I can to 28 Conti's.

When I was buying the bike, I wish I would have been told about the benefits of drop bars and road bikes at the time . I would have went a different route. But in the end, it's a decent trail bike.
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Originally Posted by Cycho View Post
When I was buying the bike, I wish I would have been told about the benefits of drop bars and road bikes at the time . I would have went a different route. But in the end, it's a decent trail bike.
I agree with you. There's a difference, however, between pointing out the benefits of drop bars to a shopper, and having a shopper tell you right off that they will not consider a bike with drop bars. The former is still open to suggestion and may be willing to try a drop bar bike, while the latter is likely to think I'm being pushy and may infer that I'm suggesting one can't be a serious rider without them!
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Originally Posted by tkm View Post

As for comfort, the FX series isn't too bad. But if you must have a plush ride, the 7xxx has that gawd-awful suspension seatpost and crappy front suspension fork on it. You'd be doing well to average more than 10mph on that bike, whereas on the FX 10mph is no problem.
That's funny, I have a 7200 and average between 15 and 19 mph with it.
In fact, even when I was 220lbs (8 months, 45lbs ago, and new to cycling) I averaged 11 to 13.
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Originally Posted by c.miller64 View Post
That's funny, I have a 7200 and average between 15 and 19 mph with it.
I average 14-17 on mine. I just didn't think the poster wanted to hear it.
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Whatever you average isn't the point. The point is that you can add about 1-2 mph to that with the FX series. And move up to a pure road bike and add another 1-2 mph.
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