tires not made in Asia - need a reference
07-31-09, 08:13 PM
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tires not made in Asia - need a reference
need an info - is there anything available that's not made in Taiwan, or Asia. had 100% miserable experience with a few tire brands made overseas and 100% success with the same tires made in Europe.
last case is almost catastrophic failure with Vittoria Rubino Pro made in Taiwan...luckily removed the front one after found serious cracks...
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last case is almost catastrophic failure with Vittoria Rubino Pro made in Taiwan...luckily removed the front one after found serious cracks...
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07-31-09, 08:14 PM
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I'm going to go way out on a limb here, but I remember reading somewhere that Veloflex's were built on Vittoria's old machinery in Italy.
07-31-09, 08:17 PM
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Hutchinson still makes their nicer tires (like, not hybrids and stuff) in Europe I believe. Continental still has some stuff in Europe too I think, not sure.
07-31-09, 09:25 PM
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Vittorias are not made in Taiwan, they are made in Thailand. The Rubino Pro Slicks are by far the best value for money racing/ training tyre IMO.
Veloflex, Continental, Dugast are not made in Asia as far as I know.
Veloflex, Continental, Dugast are not made in Asia as far as I know.
07-31-09, 09:32 PM
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Looking at my spare tire collection, I see a Michelin with "Made in France" labels, a Continental with "Made in Germany", and a Vredestein with no labels (on the tire or on the box). Not too happy about that last one. I thought they were required.
But I would not condemn a whole continent because of a problem with one tire. I have heard of brand new Michelin and Continental tires failing in less than 200 miles.
But I would not condemn a whole continent because of a problem with one tire. I have heard of brand new Michelin and Continental tires failing in less than 200 miles.
07-31-09, 09:53 PM
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Well, there's "Asia" (china) and then there is "Asia" (japan). In one Asia, companies compete by being the cheapest source for the western "brands" to use as manufacturers, and therefore have to cut costs on the production end and quality sucks. In the other Asia, companies compete by making the best quality product they can.
I'd run a made in Japan tire without hesitation. (in fact, i have some panaracers on one set of wheels).
I'd run a made in Japan tire without hesitation. (in fact, i have some panaracers on one set of wheels).
07-31-09, 10:07 PM
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The Ultra Gatorskins I just bought today were made in Germany.
07-31-09, 10:15 PM
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Continental Grand Prix 4 Seasons: Germany.
Veloflex Pave: Italy.
Michelin Speedium 2: Taiwan.
Vittoria Corsa CX Tubular: Thailand.
Veloflex Pave: Italy.
Michelin Speedium 2: Taiwan.
Vittoria Corsa CX Tubular: Thailand.
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07-31-09, 10:20 PM
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need an info - is there anything available that's not made in Taiwan, or Asia. had 100% miserable experience with a few tire brands made overseas and 100% success with the same tires made in Europe.
last case is almost catastrophic failure with Vittoria Rubino Pro made in Taiwan...luckily removed the front one after found serious cracks...
cheers
last case is almost catastrophic failure with Vittoria Rubino Pro made in Taiwan...luckily removed the front one after found serious cracks...
cheers
07-31-09, 10:25 PM
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any of the michelin stuff still made in france?
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07-31-09, 10:54 PM
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07-31-09, 11:07 PM
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Not only are they the best tires in the world, but Veloflex happen to be made in Italy. I believe they use the old Clement equipment.
07-31-09, 11:23 PM
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how made in italy, is most likely made by chinese 
https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6926181.stm
although it seems to pertain mostly to your clothing.
bad batch can happen from anywhere. schwalbe had a bad batch of ultremos for instance.
https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6926181.stm
although it seems to pertain mostly to your clothing.
bad batch can happen from anywhere. schwalbe had a bad batch of ultremos for instance.
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08-01-09, 06:31 AM
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Most are made in Thailand. Sorry Ninja2, it's impossible for Vittoria to be made in Taiwan, try again. GP4000 are still handmade I believe but the manufacturing process no longer use natural rubber, which was originally Conti's selling point. The Rubino Pros could be a bad batch, I have Diamante and Open Corsa.
As far as I know, there are still four handmade tire manufacturers - Challenge, Dugast, Veloflex and Gommitalia. But these are all tubulars and will cost upwards of 200 usd.
Good luck
As far as I know, there are still four handmade tire manufacturers - Challenge, Dugast, Veloflex and Gommitalia. But these are all tubulars and will cost upwards of 200 usd.
Good luck
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He did say "in Asia", not "by Asians". I hope no one would seriously state that Asians can't build anything of high quality, but I do notice more low-quality stuff coming from China than elsewhere, likely largely because it's more tempting due to the incredibly low possible price.
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