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Old 07-31-09, 08:45 PM
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Ti Rides Fire Sales

Here's some bike's about the same price or little more (not 2x the price at all) as the BD Ti Motobecane.

You don't have to spend 2x the price of a BD Ti ride to get a quality bike. In some cases about the same price. Just carefully shop on eBay and find a great bike at a great price. Which is what I'd do. I have done it and been very happy.

BTW quite a few new Cervelos are on eBay right now, too, at great prices. They had better advertising this year on VS TdF. They must be selling a lotta bikes now - they seem to have gone from unique boutique brand to very Trek-like mass market mass produced.

Here's some of the Ti available right now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Litespeed-Ar...d=p3286.c0.m14

http://cgi.ebay.com/Litespeed-ICON-5...d=p3286.c0.m14
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almost $3800 for a ICON with ultegra? I think you can do better than that.
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almost $3800 for a ICON with ultegra? I think you can do better than that.
You think so? 56 is a very popular size and usually they aren't getting blown out.
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I'd take it over a Ti Moto from BD with DA any day. And happily pay the extra $grand.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Litespeed-Ar...lenotsupported

17.9lbs for a full Ultegra bike with a EC90 front fork? Damn. My rainy-day 2001 Aluminum Trek 2300 with full 10-spd Ultegra weighs 17.8 lbs.

I thought Ti bikes were light?
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Try a Ti bike on a longish ride and you'll see what Ti is all about. Like RBA magazine wrote a few months ago - if ya want the best all-around bike material go with Ti. You'll be a lot fresher and stronger on the Ti because it won't beat you up like your beer-can-cycle-mobile-Trek.

There's more to a great bike than just weight.

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Originally Posted by tkm View Post
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Litespeed-Ar...lenotsupported

17.9lbs for a full Ultegra bike with a EC90 front fork? Damn. My rainy-day 2001 Aluminum Trek 2300 with full 10-spd Ultegra weighs 17.8 lbs.

I thought Ti bikes were light?
Try this instead ... 56cm frame weighs only 16.4 lbs ...

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._teamti_10.htm

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Originally Posted by FlatSix911 View Post
Try this instead ... 56cm frame weighs only 16.4 lbs ...

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._teamti_10.htm

Says bikes direct, the most reputable retailer on the internet.

Anyone have a real-world weight?
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Originally Posted by markwebb View Post
Try a Ti bike on a longish ride and you'll see what Ti is all about. Like RBA magazine wrote a few months ago - if ya want the best all-around bike material go with Ti. You'll be a lot fresher and stronger on the Ti because it won't beat you up like your beer-can-cycle-mobile-Trek.

There's more to a great bike than just weight.
I've seen a good steel bike come in around the same weight, though.

Although I'll stick with my carbon fiber main bike and have the best of both worlds, weight and ride.
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That carbon plastic temporary frame ain't the best of both worlds. Light yes. Fairly stiff. But fragile. If I had a plastic frame I'd ruin it within a few months - I'm too hard of frames to risk spending that much money on such a plastic frame.
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Hey Flat - the whole point of this thread was there are good deals on Ti out there without investing in a cheap Taiwanese frame purchased from a company without any customer service or support. Duh.

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Try this instead ... 56cm frame weighs only 16.4 lbs ...

http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._teamti_10.htm

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Originally Posted by markwebb View Post
That carbon plastic temporary frame ain't the best of both worlds. Light yes. Fairly stiff. But fragile. If I had a plastic frame I'd ruin it within a few months - I'm too hard of frames to risk spending that much money on such a plastic frame.
you're lying to somebody, i don't know if it's too us or yourself. carbon fiber seems to acquitted it self pretty well in the longevity dept.
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my titanium build came out to 18.7 pounds, but the wheels alone are nearly five pounds. a light wheelset could put me under 16!
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It's "bikes" not "bike's"

As for reliability, my teammate just warrantied his Ti frame, it cracked.

I'll keep riding my plastic one
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Ti frames are considered to be the more durable than carbon / plastic ones you see at a bike shop.
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It's "bikes" not "bike's"

As for reliability, my teammate just warrantied his Ti frame, it cracked.

I'll keep riding my plastic one
FYI: Carbon frames are actually more prone to cracking / breaking.
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Originally Posted by tkm View Post
Says bikes direct, the most reputable retailer on the internet.

Anyone have a real-world weight?
16.5 pounds w/o pedals.
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