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Not much Trek love eh! On BF..

Old 08-12-09, 01:59 PM
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Not much Trek love eh! On BF..

American company, still makes high end bikes here, won the tour 7 consecutive times, this year too.

Is it the Bonty components that puts off most of BF. Just met a guy with 15K miles on the select wheels. Just wondering.

If I have a good cash flow or find a good deal I'll tap one, why not. Of course gotta ride my team Raleigh first to death but I can see myself in one. Tried one 2 days ago. Sweetness! I love that humungous stem. A compensationary (is there such a word) act indeed.

What gives or is it just my skewed impression?

Rather we love the C bike made in C... or some Tunisian cheap labor assembled Look something like that.

Back last year, I was hoping pcad got the Trek. Oh well... A man got to make choices.
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If the rider of the *ahem* Trek bike that won 7 times had ridden a Pinarello, the slogan would just translate to that brand instead.

I love Trek bikes, don't get me wrong, but there are a lot of other great brands out there that are more overlooked because they just don't advertise or have such a well known American cyclist attached to them.

Just my .02
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Stock Madone 6.5 with Dura Ace is $6600

I've never ridden it but, on paper, it just doesn't inspire me enough...
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You have to admit 'Mericans still have the euro romaticism as much as they love counrty music in Scandinavia.
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Trek is like Cadillac; nice, but just not enough for the price...
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Some of it is Lance resentment, some of it is wanting something unique and esoteric, some of it is dislike of the 800 lb. gorilla in the industry (Nike has the same rep in the running community regardless as to the quality of their shoes).

The bikes themselves are fine, the Bontrager parts are no better or worse than what typically comes stock on similarly priced bikes, the frame warranty seems to match up with industry standards.
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I looked at a Madone before purchasing my last bike, just couldn't get past that funky seat mast.
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Originally Posted by kimconyc View Post
Trek is like Cadillac; nice, but just not enough for the price...

Fair enough... So is ther high end not really making money rather just the low end cash crop. They are still in the black this past fiscal year right?

Or non BF'ers duped into buying them (Madones)

Price aside, what makes them inadequate compared to a Euro branded bike or Canadian for that matter.
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Originally Posted by fatdad View Post
Some of it is Lance resentment, some of it is wanting something unique and esoteric, some of it is dislike of the 800 lb. gorilla in the industry (Nike has the same rep in the running community regardless as to the quality of their shoes).

The bikes themselves are fine, the Bontrager parts are no better or worse than what typically comes stock on similarly priced bikes, the frame warranty seems to match up with industry standards.
This pretty much sums up my lack of enthusiasm for Trek.
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Originally Posted by logdrum View Post
Fair enough... So is ther high end not really making money rather just the low end cash crop. They are still in the black this past fiscal year right?
I don't know nor do I really care about Trek's financial situation.

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Or non BF'ers duped into buying them (Madones)
IMO, other people can buy whatever they feel suit their needs and tastes. I don't really think they are being duped. They pay what they feel the bike is worth.

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Price aside, what makes them inadequate compared to a Euro branded bike or Canadian for that matter.
That's a pretty general statement. I'm just saying, for me, nothing about Trek's design, etc. calls out to me.

One thing they do have going that many mainstream builders don't offer is Project 1 (I think only their high-end though). That might tempt me to look at Trek.
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Treks lower end bikes are nice. Great for the an average user. Good weight and good components.
But, I would agree with others above, the Lance factor has overwelmed the market and made some of the lesser known bikes especially in the North American market less desirable.
The highest end bikes, seem to be a little more pricey for what you get.
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It's popular to hate on things that are popular
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I would bet 70% of the people who ride have a Trek, Specialized, or Giant. They just don't post a lot of pics of them because the other 69% would say, "yeah, I have that bike too".

Just my guess.
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It's like anything that goes mainstream. Once the unwashed masses gain access to it and every fred, tom, and larry are rolling around on them, it's no longer "elite" enough.
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It's popular to hate on things that are popular
Pointlessly true.
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It's popular to hate on things that are popular
I think that sums it up pretty nicely.
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I guess my Lemond is a Trek...

... but I like it anyway
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Originally Posted by kwrides View Post
I would bet 70% of the people who ride have a Trek, Specialized, or Giant. They just don't post a lot of pics of them because the other 69% would say, "yeah, I have that bike too".

Just my guess.
Yah, if reality were reflective of the BF commuting and road boards, Surly and Cervelo would be the #1 selling bikes in the USA.
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Yah, if reality were reflective of the BF commuting and road boards, Surly and Cervelo would be the #1 selling bikes in the USA.
And Pedal Force would have a 20% market share.
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It's all marketing. For the most part, you can no more go into your LBS and get the Exact same bike Lance rides than you can go into a Ferrari Dealer and buy the same car Michael Schumacher drove in F1. The stickers will be the same, but it pretty much ends at that. Custom tubes, angles etc. (Although in some instances the consumer can win as we aren't relegated to weight limits on our bikes.) Back in the beginning of Lance's winning streak, his TT bikes were custom Litespeeds with TREK badges, paint and stickers... The old team 7-11 were Huffy's.... yeah right! If the money was right, I'm sure we could get the top tier racers to ride a Motiv branded bike. This is nothing new to bike racing or MTB for that matter.

I would agree with many in that they (TREK) aren't very exciting... and let's be honest, we're all fickle to a large degree when it comes to "our" rides, they are both purchased as a status symbol and for their intrinsic value. Euro and Niche bike mfg's will always have a level of mystique that the Big Corporate Bikes will never have. A Honda Accord will get me to and from my job just fine... but I prefer my Audi A8 (might be a little of an apples to oranges statement here but you get my point).

[Edit: Incorrect info about Lance's Litespeed bike being used in Mountain Stages... confused it against a Boron frame that he used in following years see bold text.]

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Originally Posted by logdrum View Post
as much as they love counrty music in Scandinavia.
THIS

As a former resident... they do have this funny fascination with american country music. (A couple of the swedish country music musicians went through ABQ last year... no, I didn't go)

I digress...

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BF members tend to know all bikes.The average "I'm going to start cycling" guy sees more treks so assumes they are good from the numbers of them he sees,so that's what they get.Not to mention the number of trek dealers is huge.BF folks are also much more critical and probably test ride more than one . They are also more likely to seek out bikes thay have heard of to try (even traveling to do so).

BF members are more bike savvy(no offence trek-but you're just another fish in a big sea)
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Originally Posted by Hida Yanra View Post
THIS

As a former resident... they do have this funny fascination with american country music. (A couple of the swedish country music musicians went through ABQ last year... no, I didn't go)

I digress...

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LOL, thanks for that! Honkey Tonkin' Mama of Yours is a CLASSIC! I needed a good laugh.
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