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Sram hood comfort vs Shimano 7900/6700

Old 08-13-09, 02:27 PM
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Sram hood comfort vs Shimano 7900/6700

Those of you with Sram shifters, do you have a slight bump/hump/bulge where the brake hood meets the bar? I rode one bike with Sram force and it had this hump. I also see two other people complain about it thread 1 and thread 2. Is this just the way the bar is taped? Or is it alway there?

I guess I'm picky about hand comfort but I have never liked the shape of the previous generation shimano shifter hoods. They are too narrow and curved for my hands to be comfortable on long rides. I really like the shape of the new DA 7900 shifters, being wide and flat. I may end up forking over the extra cash just for ergonomics alone. I think I prefer Sram Red over 7900 for weight, price, and shifting feel, but that little bump could drive me nuts.

I have also found that hudz is an aftermarket hood, which is claimed to have a slightly different shape. Does anyone know exactly how this changes the feel relative to the stock SRAM hoods?
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Old 08-22-09, 01:29 PM
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Bump! Anyone?
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I haven't noticed it. I did pull up my hoods yesterday to check something and noticed that there is a bump on the hood that is supposed to sit in a recess on the shifter. If you put your bar tape over that recess, I imagine it would create a bump.
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Old 08-22-09, 02:16 PM
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Thanks Copperhed. Could you you expand on how you would install the tape to avoid the bump? Tape has to go under the hood to some degree, right?

Here's a picture where I can see a pretty clear bump! (It's from this 7900 vs Red thread.)



Or Here:

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Old 08-22-09, 02:23 PM
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I can't shed any light on the hoods, but I want that bike.
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Old 08-22-09, 02:24 PM
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But yet in this picture they look straight.. I'm so confused!

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There are no bumps if you tape everything right and the hoods settle over the shifter completely. As for the Hudz, I just broke my sram hoods not long ago and bought Hudz to replace them. I don't like them. They don't fit on the shifter quite as well as the sram hoods do. They're a bit loose around all the edges. Hudz also decided to put some finger grooves right behind the brake levers. The result is a slightly thicker feel in the parallel-to-bike direction). Whether or not you want the finger grooves is personal preference. Once again, I don't like them.
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I just went and looked at mine and they look exactly like the ones on that Specialized. Not sure exactly what bump you're talking about other than that little ramp up right at the junction between the hood and the handlebars. My hand is rarely on that part anyway but if it bugs you then I'd go with what you're comfortable with. Have you tried Campy shifters?
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I don't have a bump on mine.

If there is one, I imagine it is caused by one of two things:
1. more than a single layer of tape overlapping under the hood, or
2. the hoods are not placed at a vertical position in the bar where there is a flat, straight transition from the top of the drops through to the hood (see the trek, above, for what I'm talking about).

edit: also, looking really closely at that cervelo, it almost looks like one of the cables is being run on the outside coming out of the hood, which would account for the bump on that bike. Hard to see from the size of the pic and that it is black on black, however.

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Old 08-22-09, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kenshinvt View Post


I don't have a bump on mine.

If there is one, I imagine it is caused by one of two things:
1. more than a single layer of tape overlapping under the hood, or
2. the hoods are not placed at a vertical position in the bar where there is a flat, straight transition from the top of the drops through to the hood (see the trek, above, for what I'm talking about).

edit: also, looking really closely at that cervelo, it almost looks like one of the cables is being run on the outside coming out of the hood, which would account for the bump on that bike. Hard to see from the size of the pic and that it is black on black, however.
Good point. Those shifters on the Specialized don't look parallel to the bars. Now I want to check mine again but I'm too lazy to go back downstairs. Bleh.
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Old 08-22-09, 04:33 PM
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Look into a product called camper seal. It's a foam rubber material that works great for creating a soft transition from the brake hood to the bar. The 2009 Campy levers have a bit of a bump too, so I place about an inch long piece right behind the hard plastic ergo body.
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Old 08-22-09, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rumatt View Post
Those of you with Sram shifters, do you have a slight bump/hump/bulge where the brake hood meets the bar? I rode one bike with Sram force and it had this hump. I also see two other people complain about it thread 1 and thread 2. Is this just the way the bar is taped? Or is it alway there?

I guess I'm picky about hand comfort but I have never liked the shape of the previous generation shimano shifter hoods. They are too narrow and curved for my hands to be comfortable on long rides. I really like the shape of the new DA 7900 shifters, being wide and flat. I may end up forking over the extra cash just for ergonomics alone. I think I prefer Sram Red over 7900 for weight, price, and shifting feel, but that little bump could drive me nuts.

I have also found that hudz is an aftermarket hood, which is claimed to have a slightly different shape. Does anyone know exactly how this changes the feel relative to the stock SRAM hoods?
That's because whoever did the tape job sucks.

Hold on, I'll take pics and show why there should not be a hump.
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As you can see, all you need to do is make a few snips and problem solved.

As for any other bump, there really shouldn't be any.
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^^^^

Looks like a bump at the junction of the bar a shifter body, about like you get with 2009 Campy. Easily cured with a little foam rubber tape.
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looks like the shifter is mounted too high to me
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Originally Posted by Copperhed51 View Post
Not sure exactly what bump you're talking about other than that little ramp up right at the junction between the hood and the handlebars.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about! I like to be able to put my hands there at times and the bump bugs me.

My hand is rarely on that part anyway but if it bugs you then I'd go with what you're comfortable with.
Yeah... DA 7900 felt super comfortable for me, so I guess I don't need to make it more complicated than that.
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the bump bothered me until I got my hood/bar angle just right

it's caused by the hood which tapers down for a softer transition
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No bumps. Never had them.

As far as the hood comfort between Red and DA 7900...that's one of the reasons I went with Red. That piece of steel they put under the hood attached to the brake lever is really annoying.
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Originally Posted by Val23708 View Post
looks like the shifter is mounted too high to me
well shifter position is user preference.

Depending on the shifter position and the bar bend, it is possible to have a less than ideal "bump" at the transition. There is nothing you can really do about it except change the shifter position, change the bars, or do what everyone else says and use a piece of foam tape or scrap bartape to fill it in.

If you are choking up on the bars, holding the bars by the end of the hood and the curved portion of the bar, then you really need to shorten your stem.
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A small transition bump is easily cured. Foam rubber tape. It couldn't be easier.

If you want to get real fancy and you're not in a hurry, use some silcon caulk to form a transition. After is cures it will provide a soft feel in addition to a perfect transition.

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Old 08-23-09, 12:24 PM
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You could also buy some Fizik bar gel, and use the pieces that go on the top of the handlebars to get rid of that bump.

I prefer the 7900, though.
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My new bike has SRAM Red shifters, and the bump in the hood was quite noticeable. The problem was that how the bars were wrapped using the figure 8 method (didnt use the little piece to cover the hood clamp) so there was 2 layers of tape under transition of the brake hood to the bar...causing a big bad bump.
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Old 05-19-11, 10:19 PM
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dont have a bump on mine but ill agree it has to do with where the shifters are placed, the bars, and how they are wrapped.
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switching from Shimano to Sram, I know exactly what your talking about with that annoying bump between the shifter and the handlebar. It tends to dig into your palm. I make sure I run the handlebar tape over the offending gap. I eventually got used to it and I dont notice it anymore. I still prefer Sram over Shimano.
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Old 05-20-11, 05:27 AM
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Not sure if the bump can be tuned out with smart taping but...biggest downside for me when it comes to Sram shifters is the gaping hole under the hood just behind the lever. Both Shimano and Campy do a much better job filling this gap as most wrap their hands completely around the shifter hoods when climbing out of the saddle. YMMV.
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