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Smells like a CL scam, what do you think?

Old 09-05-09, 08:30 AM
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Smells like a CL scam, what do you think?

Either way, I'm not replying b/c something smells fishy:

Hello,
Thanks for the swift reply. I am still interested in buying, I am
satisfied with the conditions and because i read through the AD and i
will like you to know that, am really interested in immediate purchase
of this item for my Daughter-inlaw..I will make my payments with a
bank certified check..I will be responsible for the pick up when check
clears. Kindly get back to me with the following informations so that
payment can be endorsed:
Name to be on the check.
Address to mail the payment to,zip code{not p o box}
Phone number both land and mobile.
After the information has been supplied,I will provide an update on
the payment..I will be highly grateful if you can withdraw the ad from
craigslist and make me your favourite buyer.
Thanks You!!

Plus their subject is escrow instead of the bike I'm selling.
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Old 09-05-09, 08:40 AM
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This is a bounced money order scam.

Basically, the bank will cash a bad money order and then hold you responsible for the funds on it later when they discover it is fake... or so the scam is supposed to work.
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Old 09-05-09, 08:41 AM
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Agreed. Smells like a scam.
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Old 09-05-09, 08:48 AM
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i could tell by the first sentence, def a scam
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Old 09-05-09, 08:58 AM
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Yup, that's why I only deal in cash.
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It's been said, but I'll say it again. Scam. That or the same person wanted to buy a $1000 couch for his daughter in law, too... I'm going with scam, though.
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You might as well tell him if he cant come to your house to see it and pay cash then he can go back home cause thats def a scam. I love CL thats where i got my first bike about two weeks ago but there are some shady people. Good luck selling i looked at your sale thread it looks like a great bike.
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Old 09-05-09, 09:22 AM
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Anyone that write in paragraph form to you in and e-mail via craigslist is a scammer.
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Old 09-05-09, 09:34 AM
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I had a similar response to a Craig's List ad when I was selling a rowing machine. The buyer never referred to what I was selling by name. He referred to my rowing machine as, "Your Item". I noticed he didn't mention what you are selling by name either which means that email could have been sent to anyone selling anything.

When it happened to me I told that the guy that I accept Paypal or cash and I never heard from him again.
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Yeah, they should at least try to sound a bit more personal if they're trying to get someone to bite.
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Old 09-05-09, 10:36 AM
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Sounds legit.

Oh wait, never mind, definitely a scam.

I was asking a CL seller about a bike posted here in DC. Turned out he was in Buffalo, NY, and wanted to ship it here. Hell no -- I go to CL when I want to find local stuff. I'll bet it was a scam, but I never followed up enough for him to trip himself up.
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Old 09-05-09, 01:13 PM
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I've gotten 3 of those on the same item... It sucks because you're stoked about someone wanting to buy your stuff.
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scam.
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Old 09-05-09, 01:44 PM
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Yeah, there's several clues.

My favorite is requiring a street address (not a PO box). You can bet the the cashiers check will be delivered by a courier service, NOT USPS. That's how they dodge postal fraud charges.

In a clsssic variation they send a cashiers check in excess of the selling price and direct you to wire the change via Western Union. Again, no USPS involvement and Western Union doesn't accept checks or credit cards for money transfers so your cash is gone for good.
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I've gotten 3 of those on the same item... It sucks because you're stoked about someone wanting to buy your stuff.
True about getting stoked -- it happens every time I get a reply to one of my Casual Encounters ads.


... NOT THAT I'D EVER KNOW....
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
Yeah, there's several clues.

My favorite is requiring a street address (not a PO box). You can bet the the cashiers check will be delivered by a courier service, NOT USPS. That's how they dodge postal fraud charges.

In a clsssic variation they send a cashiers check in excess of the selling price and direct you to wire the change via Western Union. Again, no USPS involvement and Western Union doesn't accept checks or credit cards for money transfers so your cash is gone for good.
When a scammer contacted me, he asked me to go to a stationary store, like Staples, and buy special paper to print a cashier's check. He would then email something so that I could print the cashier's check and then he would send a truck to pick my "Item".

Oh the scammer also offered me $100 above my asking price which was a big red flag that it was a scam.
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Scam. No question about it. It reads like the two dozen similar emails I've received over the last few months in response to stuff I've listed on Craigslist.
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Yeah, I got the same reply when I put my bike in CL.

I actually strung the person along though. Kept telling him I didn't receive the MO he kept sending to my work address. I figure they're out about $60 with the three UPS overnight packages they sent. He keeps sending a check for $3000 to buy my $1000 bike (which I've since sold for real locally).

The scam is even worse since they overpay and ask you to send the balance in cash along with your merchandise but you get to keep some for yourself for your "troubles". Heh.

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I'm glad i read this thread the other day.
I am in the process of trying to sell a desk on C list when my wife received this reply, It immediately rang a bell and seems to follow along the lines of what you are all talking about.

My question is, if the bank clears the check, how can they turn around and then then hold you responsible for it at a later date if they clear it and issue you with the cash?

Here is the buyers reply to my ad

Dear Patrick,

I just read from my secretary, and she just confirm that all arrangement to make the payment had been perfected by her and that the payment has been made nd sent out to the supplied information (Patrick xxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)

Right now, my Account Personnel who was directed to make the payment to you had just informed me that the sum of $3500 had been sent to your supplied information against the agreed sum.The reason behind the issuance of the said sum is because i ordered him to make payment for the total sum of $500 to you for your oak roll top desk and one other payment of $3500 to to moving agent who is coming for the pick up, as he (Account Personnel) had thought the total sum $3500 was to be sent to you, hereby swooping your funds for the moving agent.

And since the payment is on the way to you now, i believe in you that you are an honest person and i believe i can be assured in you that you can handle this matter with trust and understanding and have the remainder of the money sent via western union money transfer or money gram international transfer to the moving agent who i will supply you with the information when you notify me that you've received the payment

My wife seems so worried about your return of the overage when the agreed cost of the top desk might have been deducted but i had assured them that you will definitely treat it according to my directives when you might have gotten the payment.

Hope all is well? I have already informed my mover that the remainder funds is in save hand and will get to him, All i need from you right now is to have me notified when you receive the payment so i can supply you with the information of the moving agent so that the pick up arrangement could be made.

Will be glad to read from you soon.

Sincerely.

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If they don't mention what you are selling, or they mention it as "item" its a scam.
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That's the exact same wording on two responses we received after posting a set of fine china on CL. Scam.
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Good thread. Informative.
As I write this, I'm having my payments department prepare a bank certified check for each of you.
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what I do when a buyer wants to use a bank check - tell them I'll hold the 'item' for two weeks. My bank says that it takes that long to be sure the check is good. If they disappear, its a scam. I sold a guitar on ebay, the buyer wanted to buy with such a check. I told him about the two week delay, and he said fine. Felt like a scam all along, but all went fine. The reason I tried this with him was because it was a good price fort he guitar, and I didn't care if I had to relist.

On the other hand, I had two cases where the scammer didn't even respond after I told them about the required waiting period. Very quick resolution that identified them as scammers right away.
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Mate, I wish I could be, it just seems harder too more and more these days
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