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Why aren't Bianchi's respected?

Old 09-05-09, 02:11 PM
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Why aren't Bianchi's respected?

I was just curious why Bianchi bikes aren't respected anymore. I know they moved their productions to Asia but so has all the rest of the brands in the peloton. Cervelo even isn't afraid to say that their bikes are produced in China. But why isn't bianchi respected to the same caliber as other brands anymore?
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Old 09-05-09, 02:27 PM
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Since when aren't they respected?
I think it's more of they aren't as prevalent in the shops as other brands.

Their prices sure do reflect that of a truley respected brand. LOL
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never ridden one but i like bianchis. they look good.
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Old 09-05-09, 02:33 PM
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Bianchi is outsourced crap like another other old brand name. The original Bianchi bicycles were made by hand with skilled craftsman. Now they are made in a sweatshop. Screw em and all the other Italian painted bikes made in Taiwan.
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Originally Posted by SoreFeet View Post
Bianchi is outsourced crap like another other old brand name. The original Bianchi bicycles were made by hand with skilled craftsman. Now they are made in a sweatshop. Screw em and all the other Italian painted bikes made in Taiwan.

Wow, why so much hatred. Just because they are manufactured in Asia doesn't mean they are lower quality. Maybe your just the "elitest" road biker I have been hearing about.
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Old 09-05-09, 02:45 PM
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For the new Bianchi's you are paying for a color and name. The parts on most models are decent at best. However, the older Bianchi's are where its at. Nice ride for sure!
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Old 09-05-09, 02:50 PM
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I like my Bianchi.
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Bianchi=Celeste/Columbus/steel/Made in Italy
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Old 09-05-09, 02:56 PM
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..and DT shifters.
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please provide proof of this disrespect.
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bianchi is europe's schwinn

look it up.
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guess I should just take mine to the dump then....perhaps I'll see an Asian made Felt, Specialized, Trek, or even a Cannondale! Garbage!
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Hello,

Heck, Bianchis weren't respected when I bought my Specialissima in 1976. It was my first "real" race bike and I was somewhat deflated when an older racer and bike shop owner told me that they were department store bikes.

However, upon further research, I found out that yes, most of their production at that time was sold in European department stores, but their top-end race bikes were made in Italy by old Italian guys with torches, flux, and bronze brazing rods. As I got to see more Italian bikes in the 1970s and 1980s I learned that old Italian guys, while very good frame builders, were far from perfect craftsmen.

Anyway, I still have that Bianchi (restored and rarely ridden) and I've had a slew of steel Italian race bikes since. While I still like the feel of steel, you won't see me racing on it or using it as my daily ride. Carbon is my material of choice these days and where it's made doesn't really matter to me as long as the design and fabrication quality are good.

BTW, of the bikes in the house that are mine, four of them are Bianchis. Don't worry about about respect, ride what you like.
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bianchi being the Schwinn of Europe is kinda true, unlike Colnago/Pinarello/whatnot, they made low-end city bikes to go along with their race bikes, many of which weren't exactly top-quality, made in Italy or not

their race bikes are nothing to sneeze at, though, and they're the oldest continuously operating bike maker alive, which has to be worth something.
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Originally Posted by SoreFeet View Post
Bianchi is outsourced crap like another other old brand name. The original Bianchi bicycles were made by hand with skilled craftsman. Now they are made in a sweatshop. Screw em and all the other Italian painted bikes made in Taiwan.
haha yeah, the infamous working conditions in Taiwan
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haha yeah, the infamous working conditions in Taiwan
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Originally Posted by Mitch Hedburg
I have an idea for sweatshops: air conditioning!
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I have an idea for sweatshops: air conditioning!
I had no idea Mitch was still lurking on BF.
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Originally Posted by Diegomayra View Post
Wow, why so much hatred. Just because they are manufactured in Asia doesn't mean they are lower quality. Maybe your just the "elitest" road biker I have been hearing about.

Yes, O yes, it does mean they are lower quality. Most manufacturers just flip thru a frames are us chinese catalouge, then slap a decal on it.............and WA-LA a bike company is born.

Poor Cannondale just took that route.
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Originally Posted by SoreFeet View Post
Bianchi is outsourced crap like another other old brand name. The original Bianchi bicycles were made by hand with skilled craftsman. Now they are made in a sweatshop. Screw em and all the other Italian painted bikes made in Taiwan.
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I have been in a few of these Taiwanese and Chinese factories, and other than the language spoken by the workers, there really is not much difference between them and an American or Italian or British factory. Its not like they are being made in some bamboo hut. Perfectly modern high quality manufacturing methods. Remember the 60s when everybody thought anything made in Japan was junk? Many of the same quality control and assurance techniques that brought Japan up after WW2 are now in place in the other asian areas.
In my opinion Chinese or Taiwanese goods are not necessarily any lesser quality than European made goods.
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Yes, O yes, it does mean they are lower quality. Most manufacturers just flip thru a frames are us chinese catalouge, then slap a decal on it.............and WA-LA a bike company is born.

Poor Cannondale just took that route.
Your ignorance is scary.
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is it possible to respect a non-living object?
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Yes, O yes, it does mean they are lower quality. Most manufacturers just flip thru a frames are us chinese catalouge, then slap a decal on it.............and WA-LA a bike company is born.

Poor Cannondale just took that route.
For someone who seems to prefer European made bikes you've chosen an odd spelling for a french word...
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Originally Posted by SoreFeet View Post
Bianchi is outsourced crap like another other old brand name. The original Bianchi bicycles were made by hand with skilled craftsman. Now they are made in a sweatshop. Screw em and all the other Italian painted bikes made in Taiwan.
90% of the bike in the pro peloton is made in asia.
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Originally Posted by SoreFeet View Post
Bianchi is outsourced crap like another other old brand name. The original Bianchi bicycles were made by hand with skilled craftsman. Now they are made in a sweatshop. Screw em and all the other Italian painted bikes made in Taiwan.
Snubbing Asian bikes eliminates a lot of the marketplace.

So, what do you ride, and why do you feel it to be superior to outsourced Asian production?
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