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almost 30% grade!!

Old 09-05-09, 11:11 PM
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almost 30% grade!!

There is a neighborhood st close by that has a 28% grade (San Francisco bay area). Its only like a mile long or maybe less I was in no shape to pay attention to that when I finished. I tried to climb it a bunch of times without having to stop or anything and have never been able to do it until yesterday with no stops or breaks. I made it up, and it sucked but it was done. My coach actually told me not to do it because he was scared I might hurt myself.
It is Marin Drive in Berkeley, and it could be a different percent grade I used my Garmin which might have recorded it wrong, but it is insanely steep.
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What happens if you can't make it? Do you fall off your bike clipped in? There's an insane grade in the river valley area here and I'm scared of going up it because I fear I won't make it all the way and fall off in the middle lol. I wish I had a compact or a triple. I suck at hills .
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There is a hill by my house (20%) that I had never tried because I was afraid of falling over clipped in if I ran out of energy. I did it yesterday but was able to do it by tacking up most of it (rural road so no traffic). Now I just need to tack a little less each time I ride it.
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That's killer! Is that 30% average, or peak?

I tried to climb Mont. Zoncolan the other day, and failed miserably. It's 11.55 with a max of 22%. I made it like maybe 2.5km out of 10.5! (We rode about 60km before even getting to the mountain, along Botecchia's route, where he was killed. Then up the mountain, it was insane!

Climbs like that make you wonder what the hell you're trying to accomplish, then when you get to the top it's awesome! I'll tackle Zoncolan again, and I'll make it. I think I would have done better, but I thought it was so hot!

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Dude.... I live about a mile from that road (Marin). It's absurd. I'm afraid to bike up or down it. It goes straight up, and levels off for cross streets. I used to run up it as part of a workout, and it was... awful. Sometimes I talk with people about what are the hard climbs in the area, and I don't even consider it to be a climb in normal conversation.

Congratulations for making it up!
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Some amusing footage for ya... There's a triathlon here in MD that sports the "steepest climb in all of triathlon," the Westernport Wall. 25% average, 31% max.

https://www.savagemantri.org/Westernport_Wall.html

Watching tri guys/gals negotiate this hill his funny.

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Originally Posted by DrPete
Some amusing footage for ya... There's a triathlon here in MD that sports the "steepest climb in all of triathlon," the Westernport Wall. 25% average, 31% max.

https://www.savagemantri.org/Westernport_Wall.html

Watching tri guys/gals negotiate this hill his funny.
That steep with cracked pavement and weeds? Someone has a sense of humor.
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Fall over? It really doesn't take that much energy to move your heel outwards.
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That steep with cracked pavement and weeds? Someone has a sense of humor.
On race day, if you make it up the hill, you get a brick with your name carved into it that gets placed in the street... Kind of a cool/fun idea.

There IS an option to go around if you don't want to attempt the Wall...

One kinda cool name hidden in the bricks is Adrian Fenty, mayor of DC. Quite the cyclist and a very strong triathlete...
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My name's in the bricks there..that was ridiculous, BTW. I had 11-32 gearing in the rear and was popping wheelies at every pedal stroke.
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We did the Berkeley Hills Death Ride last week.

https://www.bikeforums.net/northern-california/579573-pics-richard-s-berkeley-hills-sufferfest.html

6200' of climbing in 42 miles. My low gear for the day was 36x29 which got me up Marin though I did take some breathers on the side streets before the final three blocks. It's a very busy street so even though we started early in the morning there was plenty of traffic to be weary of.
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Checking off Marin is a milestone to be sure - were you able to climb all the way without using the side streets? If so, that's a HUGE accomplishment. I did a pre-ride of Marin before the ride that Bostic linked to above - here's my Garmin for Marin, I find the first 0.6-0.7miles are steep but, not terribly different to other tough, steep climbs in the area. The top 3 blocks are a whole other beast though. I had to pull off at each intersection to get my HR under control, and the little dip in gradient down to 20% is where I made an unplanned tack across the road. Riding that twice in one year is more than enough IMHO.

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Cool site for "steep streets"

https://googlesightseeing.com/2009/06...epest-streets/
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Marin is...awesome. Well done congrats!
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Originally Posted by davids0507
Dude.... I live about a mile from that road (Marin). It's absurd. I'm afraid to bike up or down it. It goes straight up, and levels off for cross streets. I used to run up it as part of a workout, and it was... awful. Sometimes I talk with people about what are the hard climbs in the area, and I don't even consider it to be a climb in normal conversation.

Congratulations for making it up!
When I was in college in NC we had a hill like that and a guy's front brake cable snapped while going down and the rear just could not stop him it was ugly. Didnt know the guy but heard the story.
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I did not have to get off the bike (have every other of the 50 times I have tried it though) but I did end up doing that weaving back and forth switchback thing a little. For a one mile climb my legs were totally toast.
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Originally Posted by Beaker
Checking off Marin is a milestone to be sure - were you able to climb all the way without using the side streets? If so, that's a HUGE accomplishment. I did a pre-ride of Marin before the ride that Bostic linked to above - here's my Garmin for Marin, I find the first 0.7-0.8miles are steep but, not terribly different to other tough, steep climbs in the area. The top 3 blocks are a whole other beast though. I had to pull off at each intersection to get my HR under control, and the little dip in gradient down to 20% is where I made an unplanned tack across the road. Riding that twice in one year is more than enough IMHO.

Thats a cool ride profile. Does the garmin software do that or is it some aftermarket stuff? Im not good with that sort of thing but I want to start tracking some of my rides with some sort of setup like that. I have a garmin 705 but never really download anything to my computer.
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Originally Posted by benajah
Thats a cool ride profile. Does the garmin software do that or is it some aftermarket stuff? Im not good with that sort of thing but I want to start tracking some of my rides with some sort of setup like that. I have a garmin 705 but never really download anything to my computer.
SportTracks, as shown in the lower left of the photo. It's a nice piece of free software, and it can be downloaded here.
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Exactly - I find Sportracks much better than Training Center or GarminConnect for data analysis
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Canton Avenue in Pittsburgh, 37% grade. Yes, that's cobblestone.


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30%?? Wow. That's frickin' steep. There are some 20% to 25% grades that I do regularly, but that's about the best I could do, I think. I'm actually scared that I'll break something with that much force on the equipment. I try not to pull up on the bars too hard; I lean forward as far as I can to put weight over the front wheel, which usually works. (Last week, my rear wheel spun a bit; I had to ease back to put more weight over the rear wheel.) Sometimes I worry that the crank will snap or something, too.

I find that on short hills, my Garmin 305 has trouble getting a consistent reading. For example, it once showed a hill as having a grade of 75%! I was going down the hill, and I guess it got the readings at inopportune times. I was hoping that some software would even out the measurements to make the readings more accurate. I'll check out the SportTracks software later.
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Canton Avenue in Pittsburgh, 37% grade. Yes, that's cobblestone.

Cobblestones and leaves? I'd have problems with wheel spin on less than half that grade
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Originally Posted by benajah
When I was in college in NC we had a hill like that and a guy's front brake cable snapped while going down and the rear just could not stop him it was ugly. Didnt know the guy but heard the story.
Where is this hill you speak of? I wanna go there and torture myself.
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