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2 Bikes 3 Sets of Wheels With Power?

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2 Bikes 3 Sets of Wheels With Power?

I am looking at two bikes a road bike and a time trial bike. I am looking at 3 sets of wheels, time trial, light set for hilly races, and the everyday bombproof set. I have to have reliable power with each combo.

The choices are 3 powertaps or two crank based.

I am also looking at something along the lines of a set of 404's, 202's or similar, and then aluminum clinchers for everyday.

It is enough to drive someone mad. I am thinking tubular for the races wheels. Road races, time trials, and organized hilly centuries.

High quality power is top priority. Any input?

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you'll have better luck in the racing sub forum.
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The actual choice is 3 powertaps, or one crank based.

Get a Quarq, switch it between bikes. Pretty simple job from what I hear, takes about as long as a cassette change, if not less.
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wow. Are you sponsored or do you have a kickin job to afford that much gear at once?
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
The actual choice is 3 powertaps, or one crank based.

Get a Quarq, switch it between bikes. Pretty simple job from what I hear, takes about as long as a cassette change, if not less.
Definitely less than a cassette change.
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Originally Posted by DrPete
Definitely less than a cassette change.
You haven't seen me change a cassette.
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Depends if he wants different chainrings for different events...


I have 3 PT wheels...

Two laced to DT Swiss rims...

One stays on Campy bikes and one on Shimano bikes (but the freehub is easy to change)...

I change cranksets between triple, double, compact and cross...

One laced to a Zipp 202 rim for hill climbing races...
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Will likely continue to use the compact on the road bike, and a 53/39 on the TT bike. Actually here a straight 53 would be fine since it is dead flat.

Not buying all at once, and I already have the road bike.

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I use a Quarq between 4 bikes regularly. I have an Edge mount and outboard BB on each bike. I have a few 8mm wrenches so I can quickly grab one wherever I'm at(garage, races, basement). It literally takes 90 seconds to swap the crank between bikes.

And I ride dual Hed 90's for ALL races.
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Buy one Cinqo. Swapping cranks is simple
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Originally Posted by cslone
I use a Quarq between 4 bikes regularly. It literally takes 90 seconds to swap the crank between bikes.
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Buy one Cinqo. Swapping cranks is simple
Yes changing cranks is easy but...

With the CinQo you can't change the chainrings...

Get it...

If I want to ride 52/39 one day then 50/34 the next, I can't just change the crank to a different bike...
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Originally Posted by Hammertoe
Yes chainging cranks is easy but...

But with the CinQo you can't change the chainrings...

Get it...

If I want to ride 52/39 one day then 50/36 the next I can't just change the crank to a different bike...
Well you can't do that since you are going std to compact. You can change rings, just use the carbon prep on the surfaces. Though they do recommend getting it recalibrated if you change sizes
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Originally Posted by nitropowered
Well you can't do that since you are going std to compact.
Hence his question...
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Maybe one Cinqo or SRM and run 53/39 on both bikes - and maybe run 11-28 cassettes. That combo gets me up anything northern Utah has to offer.
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I will keep kicking it around. Thanks for the input guys.

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williams 58 w/powertap will probably take care of aero and training. And for the lightweight set, some 1.1's should do it...
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Originally Posted by Hammertoe
Yes changing cranks is easy but...

With the CinQo you can't change the chainrings...

Get it...

If I want to ride 52/39 one day then 50/34 the next, I can't just change the crank to a different bike...
Just buy a standard with a 12/27 or a compact with an 11/26. Both will cover similar gearing. You don't need a 53 on a TT bike, a 50/11 will go plenty fast.
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Actually I run a compact with a 12/27, and I need it all. For instance on a 2 miles medium hard hill max grade around 12% I am running a cadence in the 40's with power in excess of 230 watts. Don't want it any worse than that, because there are harder hills that come along.

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So then run a compact with an 11-28
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Originally Posted by reef58
Actually I run a compact with a 12/27, and I need it all. For instance on a 2 miles medium hard hill max grade around 12% I am running a cadence in the 40's with power in excess of 230 watts. Don't want it any worse than that, because there are harder hills that come along.

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I didn't say you didn't need a compact, I said you didn't need a 53 on a TT bike. A 50-11/27 or 28 would meet your needs and have a bigger gear than a 53/12 for the TT bike.

Feel free to buy 3 powertaps, but the ease and money savings is with a Quarq or possibly even SRM.
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It is something to consider. That's why I was asking. I hate changing stuff around though, but 3 powertaps is ridiculous.

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There is no such thing as a light climbing set with a powertap. Even the lightest powertap is twice the weight of the regular substitute for the second heaviest component in a wheel.

Get two sets. Put a powertap in both if you want. Realize you can only ride one set at a time.

As for the Williams 58.... I emplore you to check out my full carbon clinchers I offer. I can build them up with better quality hubs and at a much lower price and we both use the same manufacture of rim.

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Originally Posted by reef58
It is something to consider. That's why I was asking. I hate changing stuff around though, but 3 powertaps is ridiculous.

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Three powertaps is only ridiculous if your situation makes it truly seem that way.

I used to think a Garmin was ridiculous. I used to think a powertap was ridiculous, etc. It's all relative. How much is your time worth to you?
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I am coming to you for wheels. I just won't bug you until I am ready to purchase.

As far as light I know, but a zipp 202 tubie even with a PT is fairly light.

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There is no such thing as a light climbing set with a powertap. Even the lightest powertap is twice the weight of the regular substitute for the second heaviest component in a wheel.

Get two sets. Put a powertap in both if you want. Realize you can only ride one set at a time.

As for the Williams 58.... I emplore you to check out my full carbon clinchers I offer. I can build them up with better quality hubs and at a much lower price and we both use the same manufacture of rim.

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Originally Posted by reef58
As far as light I know, but a zipp 202 tubie even with a PT is fairly light.
My 2008 Zipp 202 rear wheel with PT SL+, with glued Zipp Tangente tire w/ Zipp skewer weighs 1148 g...

2008 Zipp front wheel with Zipp hub, Zipp skewer and glued Vittoria Corsa EVO-CX weighs 810g...

1958g for wheelset with tires and skwers...



My rear DT Swiss RR 1.1 rim with PT SL+ hub, Supersonic tire and latex tube, AC skewer weighs 1228g...

DT Swiss RR 1.1 front rim with AC Micro 58 hub, Supersonic tire, latex tube and AC skewer weighs 900g...

2128g for wheelset with tires...
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