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Old 09-07-09, 02:53 PM
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Cervelo S2 choices.

Im finally getting onto the Carbon bandwagon, so to speak. Im ditching my steel frame for a Carbon because Im starting to feel the weight of the bike on climbs now. And also because there is this annoying sound coming from the bb area. Whenever i stand up and climb it creaks but when im in the saddle no problem. When i also get off the bike and just put some force onto the cranks it creaks a bit and it FLEXES!! I switch the old cranks out for a 10 speed 7800 DA crankset yesterday but still the creak is still there. So im giving up on it. I tried everything and looked everywhere. Maybe it's just destiny. Although it's fairly light i could lose 3-5 pounds on switching to a carbon frame. The Cervelo s2 is what im looking to buy because i've always loved the aesthetic appeal of cervelo frames. But i don't know if i should wait it out for the 2010 S2 or just get the 2009 S2. Their probably going to be same structurally but the only difference might be the paint job.
What would you do?


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Your steel frame would have to be a Schwinn Varsity for you to lose 3-5 lbs by switching to a carbon frame. Not many steel frames are that heavy.

If you have the money, there's no reason not to buy the bike of your dreams. But figure out what's wrong with the steel frame and keep that too, as a backup/winter bike.

I'd get whichever model year Cervelo looks best to you. The only difference from '09 to '10 is paint. I'm not a fan of white bikes, so I'd get the '09.

But ride one first. And ride the other bikes in the price range... you may find something that fits or feels better to you. A bike that fits you right and has a ride that you like is more important than how it looks.
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Originally Posted by ericm979
Your steel frame would have to be a Schwinn Varsity for you to lose 3-5 lbs by switching to a carbon frame. Not many steel frames are that heavy.

If you have the money, there's no reason not to buy the bike of your dreams. But figure out what's wrong with the steel frame and keep that too, as a backup/winter bike.

I'd get whichever model year Cervelo looks best to you. The only difference from '09 to '10 is paint. I'm not a fan of white bikes, so I'd get the '09.

But ride one first. And ride the other bikes in the price range... you may find something that fits or feels better to you. A bike that fits you right and has a ride that you like is more important than how it looks.
Haha, yea the steel bike is a lugged Serotta frame. Its nice but the creak is so ANNOYING!!
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Im finally getting onto the Carbon bandwagon, so to speak. Im ditching my steel frame for a Carbon because Im starting to feel the weight of the bike on climbs now. And also because there is this annoying sound coming from the bb area. Whenever i stand up and climb it creaks but when im in the saddle no problem. When i also get off the bike and just put some force onto the cranks it creaks a bit and it FLEXES!! I switch the old cranks out for a 10 speed 7800 DA crankset yesterday but still the creak is still there. So im giving up on it. I tried everything and looked everywhere. Maybe it's just destiny. Although it's fairly light i could lose 3-5 pounds on switching to a carbon frame. The Cervelo s2 is what im looking to buy because i've always loved the aesthetic appeal of cervelo frames. But i don't know if i should wait it out for the 2010 S2 or just get the 2009 S2. Their probably going to be same structurally but the only difference might be the paint job.
What would you do?

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huh? too much pot in your formative years.
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Either way, your choice would be Pcad Approved®.

This looks more like a seal of DIS-approval.
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Originally Posted by ch3n207
Im finally getting onto the Carbon bandwagon, so to speak. Im ditching my steel frame for a Carbon because Im starting to feel the weight of the bike on climbs now. And also because there is this annoying sound coming from the bb area. Whenever i stand up and climb it creaks but when im in the saddle no problem. When i also get off the bike and just put some force onto the cranks it creaks a bit and it FLEXES!! I switch the old cranks out for a 10 speed 7800 DA crankset yesterday but still the creak is still there. So im giving up on it. I tried everything and looked everywhere. Maybe it's just destiny. Although it's fairly light i could lose 3-5 pounds on switching to a carbon frame. The Cervelo s2 is what im looking to buy because i've always loved the aesthetic appeal of cervelo frames. But i don't know if i should wait it out for the 2010 S2 or just get the 2009 S2. Their probably going to be same structurally but the only difference might be the paint job.
What would you do?


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Originally Posted by patentcad
Either way, your choice would be Pcad Approved®.

Yea that definately looks more of a disapproval stamp.
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would you want to be seen on a bike that pcad would be happy to be seen on?
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would you want to be seen on a bike that pcad would be happy to be seen on?
Not with that look of Approval.....
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Originally Posted by ch3n207
Im finally getting onto the Carbon bandwagon, so to speak. Im ditching my steel frame for a Carbon because Im starting to feel the weight of the bike on climbs now. And also because there is this annoying sound coming from the bb area. Whenever i stand up and climb it creaks but when im in the saddle no problem. When i also get off the bike and just put some force onto the cranks it creaks a bit and it FLEXES!! I switch the old cranks out for a 10 speed 7800 DA crankset yesterday but still the creak is still there. So im giving up on it. I tried everything and looked everywhere. Maybe it's just destiny. Although it's fairly light i could lose 3-5 pounds on switching to a carbon frame. The Cervelo s2 is what im looking to buy because i've always loved the aesthetic appeal of cervelo frames. But i don't know if i should wait it out for the 2010 S2 or just get the 2009 S2. Their probably going to be same structurally but the only difference might be the paint job.
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That white Cervelo looks like my 2010 Giant but mine costs a lot less and is lighter.
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Originally Posted by ch3n207
This white one is very sweet looking IMO.

But definitely keep that Serotta around and use it for a wet weather/training bike.
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Originally Posted by cydewaze
This white one is very sweet looking IMO.

But definitely keep that Serotta around and use it for a wet weather/training bike.
But it creaks so much. I guess ill deal with it in wet conditions though.
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White looks nice but also shows dirt and grime much quicker. Maybe that would help remind you that you should be cleaning your bike. I say go with whichever you get a better deal on. (probably the '09 if you can find one in your size)
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Carbon bikes are no stranger to creaks and ticks. Even when there is "nothing wrong", they can make noise. Natural and normal sounds from cassette or cables, seatpost, saddles can reverberate through the frame and make some noise. If they aren't consistent or rythmic, I don't worry but if it is persistent and constant, I try to track it down.

No bike is a silent as my ti bikes though. I am breaking in the Giant but so far so good. I had some noises from headset on my Mongoose when I first got it, but is is silent since. Standing on pedal and hammering will cause most bikes to make some noise, but most time in saddle on my bikes is silent. Just want to warn you that you carbon bike might not be silent from day one.
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That white Cervelo looks like my 2010 Giant but mine costs a lot less and is lighter.
Whats your take on the wheelset you have? Im thinking of upgrading that as well.
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I think the only difference in the 09, 10 models is the paint. I like the red/black one. If you can afford it go on and get one.
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Originally Posted by ericm979
Your steel frame would have to be a Schwinn Varsity for you to lose 3-5 lbs by switching to a carbon frame. Not many steel frames are that heavy.
Incorrect. I switched from an old Univega frameset to a Specialized E5 and, even with almost identical components, dropped about 5 lbs off the bike - 24 to 19 or so. Now, a Serotta and most higher-quality steel frames won't be quite that dramatic (and the fork is a much bigger difference), but you can drop a fair amount even from a good quality but heavy steel road frame. It might be more like 1 or 2 lbs with a high-end steel bike if you already have a carbon fork.

FWIW, the E5 is a 1200g frame, about the same as the S2. Maybe a touch heavier, but no more than 50g or so.
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Whats your take on the wheelset you have? Im thinking of upgrading that as well.
I have only had bike a couple of weeks and these were stock so I don't have any long term opinion. However, these wheels are stiffer than my Easton EA SLXs I recently got but comparable to my Easton EA SLs. I'd say the Mavics are stiffest of the bunch. They are pretty light too at 1485 grams.
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I like the red/black one. If you can afford it go on and get one.
Me too.

Even if you can't afford it, get one.
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This time of year, I would be looking for good deals on older models. My dealer still has some 2008 model Cervelo's in stock that are priced pretty good. Last October, I bought a 2007 model Cervelo TT bike and got a good price. If I was buying in the fall, I would be more concerned about the price than the color.
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Originally Posted by ericm979
Your steel frame would have to be a Schwinn Varsity for you to lose 3-5 lbs by switching to a carbon frame. Not many steel frames are that heavy.
My carbon bike is 17lbs.

Are you saying there are no 20lb+ steel bikes?
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