Why are brifters so expensive?
09-09-09, 10:29 AM
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That refers to a specific sort, not the notion of an integrated brake/ shift lever system.
Annoying, especially when it can be easily be contracted into a single, shorter word.
Sure, "brifter" sounds somewhat silly, but it strikes me as no different from saying "gas" instead of "gasoline", or any number of other words that have been abbreviated or contracted for simplicity.
Annoying, especially when it can be easily be contracted into a single, shorter word.
Sure, "brifter" sounds somewhat silly, but it strikes me as no different from saying "gas" instead of "gasoline", or any number of other words that have been abbreviated or contracted for simplicity.
09-09-09, 10:48 AM
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Shakers
Brafters
Shrakers
Shift-y brake-y thingy
Shake and bake...???
...nah!
Brafters
Shrakers
Shift-y brake-y thingy
Shake and bake...???
...nah!
09-09-09, 10:54 AM
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That refers to a specific sort, not the notion of an integrated brake/ shift lever system.
Annoying, especially when it can be easily be contracted into a single, shorter word.
Sure, "brifter" sounds somewhat silly, but it strikes me as no different from saying "gas" instead of "gasoline", or any number of other words that have been abbreviated or contracted for simplicity.
Annoying, especially when it can be easily be contracted into a single, shorter word.
Sure, "brifter" sounds somewhat silly, but it strikes me as no different from saying "gas" instead of "gasoline", or any number of other words that have been abbreviated or contracted for simplicity.
why don't I just call you bumbug?
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09-09-09, 11:00 AM
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And why wasn't your post:
I'll ask again: what's wrong with abbreviations and contractions?
09-09-09, 11:04 AM
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just call them for what they are.
I don't get paid enough to come up with new crappy names for products.
I don't get paid enough to come up with new crappy names for products.
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https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
09-09-09, 11:11 AM
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Just call them levers
09-09-09, 11:16 AM
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You cared enough to keep replying about it 
Call them what you want, but we will keep calling it a stupid word. Like gruppo.
Call them what you want, but we will keep calling it a stupid word. Like gruppo.
09-09-09, 11:18 AM
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just watch the shift/ brake lever crowd come up with an all new word. "shaker levers"
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09-09-09, 11:21 AM
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I think the OP was refering to ALL shifters and not just the DA.
Check the prices people are paying for these things on EBAY. 6 year old beat to hell tiagra going for $150.
I had been tracking the prices for a while now and have been shocked at what ppl are willing to pay for them.
Check the prices people are paying for these things on EBAY. 6 year old beat to hell tiagra going for $150.
I had been tracking the prices for a while now and have been shocked at what ppl are willing to pay for them.
Actually, I'll give you that anything under 10sp seems a bit high, but blame it on the many people bidding on 9speed and 8speed stuff and the limited supply.
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They are expensive because that's what the market will bear. Simple economics.
09-22-09, 12:31 AM
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09-22-09, 10:41 AM
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It is quite common for lay persons who have no background in manufacturing to grossly oversimplify the processes required. As someone who has a background in metal forming and machining, I can tell you that reliably forming small metal parts is very complicated and expensive. Machined parts devour tooling and forged parts require expensive tooling as well. There are many parts and they all have to stay in spec or poor function and longevity will be the result.
Frankly, I find it hard to believe they make much $$ on these kinds of parts. I know what kind of chops you have to have to do it right, and not many factories can pull it off.
This is why you find plastic parts in so many things now that don't last very long. Drills used to last for decades with all metal gears. Not anymore. Crack open a DVD player and every bloody part is plastic. Makes it cheaper to manufacture, both in materials and tooling. But now a throwaway item after a few hundred uses.
Frankly, I find it hard to believe they make much $$ on these kinds of parts. I know what kind of chops you have to have to do it right, and not many factories can pull it off.
This is why you find plastic parts in so many things now that don't last very long. Drills used to last for decades with all metal gears. Not anymore. Crack open a DVD player and every bloody part is plastic. Makes it cheaper to manufacture, both in materials and tooling. But now a throwaway item after a few hundred uses.
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Anyone who thinks they're too expensive can make their own. Or, alternatively, there's always downtube shifting.
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