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BB30, real deal or drinkin' the kool-aid?

Old 09-16-09, 08:39 PM
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BB30, real deal or drinkin' the kool-aid?

BB30 this, BB30 that. Considering how few people are actually riding them I can't understand the sheep like worship.

What's the deal? Prove me wrong.

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Old 09-16-09, 08:57 PM
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bb30 is dumb no real benefit except to the manufacturer
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Originally Posted by RichinPeoria
bb30 is dumb no real benefit except to the manufacturer
You're right. God forbid we have less weight, stiffer cranks, a simpler design, and better bearings.

Yeah, those damn manufacturers.
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Old 09-16-09, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by vjp
BB30 this, BB30 that. Considering how few people are actually riding them I can't understand the sheep like worship.

What's the deal? Prove me wrong.

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Can't. Just go ride a bike with a nice BB30 crankset.
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Old 09-16-09, 09:50 PM
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This is the kind of thread where nobody can be right...
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weight savings are nice. my $180 ebay SI crank is as light as a k-force lite. one reason my caad7 is 15.8 lb with pedals and cages.
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looks like the real deal to me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsx4oJb-TzI
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I like the Cannondale Hollowgram SL crankset. Looks nice (anodized aluminum in a CF world), stiff, and very light (around 580g /w BB30 BB)!

I would consider getting a Super Six just for the crankset alone...
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What is the weight? Cranks + bearings + axle = ? How much lighter than other decent gear? I read "lighter", but by how much? Stiffer than stiff? My Centaur cranks are pretty close to my chainstays and I am 220, they don't touch when I stand and jump so how much stiffer can they be?

I am not saying that BB30 is not nice I am just not buying the "better" part.

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Old 09-16-09, 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by vjp
What is the weight? Cranks + bearings + axle = ? How much lighter than other decent gear? I read "lighter", but by how much? Stiffer than stiff? My Centaur cranks are pretty close to my chainstays and I am 220, they don't touch when I stand and jump so how much stiffer can they be?

I am not saying that BB30 is not nice I am just not buying the "better" part.

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Depends on the crank.

The Hollowgram SL is 580g with everything (that's almost .5 lbs weight savings over a regular t.o.t.l. crankset in real-world measurements). That's friggin light!
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Originally Posted by kimconyc
I like the Cannondale Hollowgram SL crankset. Looks nice (anodized aluminum in a CF world), stiff, and very light (around 580g /w BB30 BB)!

I would consider getting a Super Six just for the crankset alone...
The new S-Works SL crankset is a claimed 573g (w/BB) in compact. It's only a claimed weight, but their claimed weights are generally in-line with my measured weights.

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Old 09-16-09, 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by umd
The new S-Works SL crankset is a claimed 573g (w/BB) in compact. It's only a claimed weight, but their claimed weights are generally in-line with my measured weights.

I would consider getting an SL3 for the crankset alone...

(I still like the '10 Hollowgram SL better though just from an aesthetic standpoint )
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unnecessary, and a bit overkill, but at least it's being adopted as a standard, unlike the days of octalink, isis, square taper, etc.
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Old 09-16-09, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kimconyc
I would consider getting an SL3 for the crankset alone...
You can buy them separately... only $650
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Well, we all better start drinking the Kool-Aid cuz BB30 is here to stay it seems and just about every manufacturer is getting on board.
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Old 09-16-09, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by umd
You can buy them separately... only $650
Where? How much of an improvement is that over the Sram S900 crankset?
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Well the S900 crankset isn't BB30, so if you can use one you can't use the other...

As far as improvement... I dunno, 200 grams? I've used the S900 and the older slightly heavier version of the S-Works crankset. I can't tell any difference in stiffness personally. I don't think I would be able to tell you which I was using if I didn't look, but nearly half a pound is what it is.
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You can disregard the where part..im and idiot...wasnt clicking oh hey the speicalized website haha. Anyone can answer the second part though.
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Old 09-16-09, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by umd
Well the S900 crankset isn't BB30, so if you can use one you can't use the other...

As far as improvement... I dunno, 200 grams? I've used the S900 and the older slightly heavier version of the S-Works crankset. I can't tell any difference in stiffness personally. I don't think I would be able to tell you which I was using if I didn't look, but nearly half a pound is what it is.
Yea i know the S900 isnt BB30...that is just what I have on my bike right now.
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Originally Posted by kimconyc
Depends on the crank.

The Hollowgram SL is 580g with everything (that's almost .5 lbs weight savings over a regular t.o.t.l. crankset in real-world measurements). That's friggin light!
That IS light!

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Originally Posted by Varns269
Where? How much of an improvement is that over the Sram S900 crankset?
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You can disregard the where part..im and idiot...wasnt clicking oh hey the speicalized website haha. Anyone can answer the second part though.
I've never used a S900 crankset but I do have a SRAM Red crankset on one of my bikes. If it's anything like the SRAM Red crankset, I can assure you, riding on the Hollowgram SL crankset made realize how substandard the Red crankset is...

Never tried out the S-Works crankset because there's no SL3's around here yet...
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But at over twice the price of a Red crankset I guess it makes sense (talking about the Cannondale crank). If you have a regular BB, I would say the Dura Ace 7900 crankset is the best crankset out there, but that's also way more expensive than SRAM Red.
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In all seriousness though, an impeccably clean and properly lubed chain and drivetrain trumps all this BB30 nonsense...
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Originally Posted by kimconyc
I've never used a S900 crankset but I do have a SRAM Red crankset on one of my bikes. If it's anything like the SRAM Red crankset, I can assure you, riding on the Hollowgram SL crankset made realize how substandard the Red crankset is...

Never tried out the S-Works crankset because there's no SL3's around here yet...
Is the Hollowgram SL crankset on only one bike? I quick glance I saw it on only one. Can you buy that crankset or can you only get it on Cannondale bikes?
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