Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Sorry no test rides...wtf?

Notices
Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway

Sorry no test rides...wtf?

Old 09-19-09, 01:14 PM
  #1  
Tress94
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Tress94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 87
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Sorry no test rides...wtf?

Is it normal for a shop to tell you it is "impossible" to test ride a bike because of it has an integrated seat mast? Obviously you are not going to cut it down for me...duh...I'm not asking or expecting that...but can't you get it close so I can ride the damn bike? I'm just wondering if this is normal for most shops? Thanks.
Tress94 is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 01:19 PM
  #2  
Tress94
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Tress94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 87
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The bike in question is the 2009 Look 576 Aero:

http://www.lookcycle.com/products/?m=7&l=en
Tress94 is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 01:21 PM
  #3  
bt
Banned
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,664
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
maybe they don't like you?
bt is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 01:24 PM
  #4  
Kerian
Internet!
 
Kerian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Bloomington, IL
Posts: 106

Bikes: Nashbar Road Mk II, Trek Soho S, Kestrel Talon SL

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I wouldn't shell out money for a bike I couldn't test ride. Seems kind of lame to me, especially for a high end bike like a Look.
Kerian is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 01:25 PM
  #5  
CameronC
Cam
 
CameronC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Houston
Posts: 168
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
You could not ride it in the store?
CameronC is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 01:26 PM
  #6  
Flatballer
No matches
 
Flatballer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 11,309

Bikes: two wheeled ones

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1093 Post(s)
Liked 43 Times in 29 Posts
Makes sense to me. They're not gonna cut it, so it isn't going to fit you (unless you happen to be really tall), so what's the point of riding it?
Flatballer is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 01:29 PM
  #7  
Tress94
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Tress94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 87
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by bt View Post
maybe they don't like you?
I don't think they like anyone in there unless you walk in fanning yourself with a Visa Black Card.
Tress94 is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 01:32 PM
  #8  
alxra
I hate hate crimes
 
alxra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 266
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
buy a bike from a shop that'll let you test ride. Then make sure you take it by the shop that would not let you test ride and show them your new bike. Make sure you do it in front of both the shop manager and his sales person.
alxra is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 01:34 PM
  #9  
Tress94
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Tress94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 87
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Flatballer View Post
Makes sense to me. They're not gonna cut it, so it isn't going to fit you (unless you happen to be really tall), so what's the point of riding it?
Really? There is a bit of adjustment with the insert and if the frame is the correct size, shouldn't it be close enough for a test ride? So no one can ever test ride anything with an integrated seat post...seems like a lot of higher end carbon is moving in this direction...you just buy and then hope to love it?
Tress94 is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 01:42 PM
  #10  
Flatballer
No matches
 
Flatballer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 11,309

Bikes: two wheeled ones

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1093 Post(s)
Liked 43 Times in 29 Posts
Originally Posted by Tress94 View Post
Really? There is a bit of adjustment with the insert and if the frame is the correct size, shouldn't it be close enough for a test ride? So no one can ever test ride anything with an integrated seat post...seems like a lot of higher end carbon is moving in this direction...you just buy and then hope to love it?
I had to cut 2 inches or something off my seat mast on my Pedal Force when I got it. There is only about 10mm of play in the saddle holder.

I couldn't have even reached the pedals without cutting it. They put a TON of seat mast on these bikes, just in case someone with really long legs wants to ride it. Everyone with normal proportions will likely need to cut a good deal off.

I don't really know how you test ride it. I've never really thought that test rides are that important though. You can make any bike in the right size fit you, and you should be able to figure out ride characteristics from other people who have ridden it, and the geometry and materials.
Flatballer is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 01:53 PM
  #11  
ch3n207
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 459
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I would have said screw you. Ill take my business elsewhere. And walked out.
ch3n207 is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 02:04 PM
  #12  
joncapozzi
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 25
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I don't see the appeal of an integrated seat post anyway.
joncapozzi is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 02:18 PM
  #13  
rangerdavid
Senior Member
 
rangerdavid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Boone, North Carolina
Posts: 5,094

Bikes: 2009 Cannondale CAAD9-6 2014 Trek Domaine 5.9

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
that's a crock.......... go to another LBS. When I purhased mine, they allowed me up to 30 minutes on each bike I test rode, and trust me, I rode a bunch!!! from the specializd allez, the CAAD 9 I eventually purchased, a Six, a Trek, and really several more i can't even remember.

any shop that won.t allow a test ride can.t really expect to sell the bike............ IMHO
rangerdavid is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 02:22 PM
  #14  
botto 
.
 
botto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 40,369
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Tress94 View Post
I don't think they like anyone in there unless you walk in fanning yourself with a Visa Black Card.
have a bad experience at R&A?
botto is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 02:24 PM
  #15  
robotkiller
Senior Member
 
robotkiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 441

Bikes: Cannondale Capo and Rize

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I suspect they didn't think you had any intention to buy the bike, so they basically told you to buzz off.
robotkiller is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 02:26 PM
  #16  
lambo_vt
member. heh.
 
lambo_vt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Posts: 1,631
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
With a bike at that level, what are you really going to learn by taking it for a spin in the parking lot?
lambo_vt is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 02:28 PM
  #17  
botto 
.
 
botto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 40,369
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by lambo_vt View Post
With a bike at that level, what are you really going to learn by taking it for a spin in the parking lot?
botto is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 02:28 PM
  #18  
estabro
lungbuster
 
estabro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: 132 & Bush
Posts: 653

Bikes: Trek 5000 Road, SSFG Road, Kona FS MTN, Frankenbike

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Tress94 View Post
I don't think they like anyone in there unless you walk in fanning yourself with a Visa Black Card.
AmEx.
estabro is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 02:32 PM
  #19  
Flatballer
No matches
 
Flatballer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Eastern PA
Posts: 11,309

Bikes: two wheeled ones

Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1093 Post(s)
Liked 43 Times in 29 Posts
Originally Posted by rangerdavid View Post
that's a crock.......... go to another LBS. When I purhased mine, they allowed me up to 30 minutes on each bike I test rode, and trust me, I rode a bunch!!! from the specializd allez, the CAAD 9 I eventually purchased, a Six, a Trek, and really several more i can't even remember.

any shop that won.t allow a test ride can.t really expect to sell the bike............ IMHO
You missed the entire point (as did many people in the thread).

THE BIKE HAS A SEAT MAST!

There, maybe yelling will help get the point across.
Flatballer is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 02:34 PM
  #20  
umd
Banned
 
umd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 28,387

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Tress94 View Post
Really? There is a bit of adjustment with the insert and if the frame is the correct size, shouldn't it be close enough for a test ride? So no one can ever test ride anything with an integrated seat post...seems like a lot of higher end carbon is moving in this direction...you just buy and then hope to love it?
Most people who buy high end stuff know what size they are and know what they want in a frame and know that they aren't going to learn much with a test ride. The integrated seatmasts come very long and will have to be cut down for most people to even be able to get on it.
umd is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 02:35 PM
  #21  
umd
Banned
 
umd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Santa Barbara, CA
Posts: 28,387

Bikes: Specialized Tarmac SL2, Specialized Tarmac SL, Giant TCR Composite, Specialized StumpJumper Expert HT

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Welcome back b
umd is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 02:43 PM
  #22  
patentcad
Peloton Shelter Dog
 
patentcad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Chester, NY
Posts: 90,446

Bikes: 2017 Scott Foil, 2016 Scott Addict SL, 2018 Santa Cruz Blur CC MTB

Mentioned: 71 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1065 Post(s)
Liked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by CameronC View Post
You could not ride it in the store?
Of course you can kid.
patentcad is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 02:49 PM
  #23  
coasting 
Still can't climb
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Limey in Taiwan
Posts: 23,024
Mentioned: 23 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 10 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
integrated seat mast. what a dumb idea.
__________________
coasting, few quotes are worthy of him, and of those, even fewer printable in a family forum......quote 3alarmer

No @coasting, you should stay 100% as you are right now, don't change a thing....quote Heathpack
coasting is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 04:26 PM
  #24  
Tress94
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Tress94's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 87
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by botto View Post
have a bad experience at R&A?
Doesn't everyone?
Tress94 is offline  
Old 09-19-09, 04:26 PM
  #25  
MONGO!
Senior Member
 
MONGO!'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 4,279
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by ch3n207 View Post
I would have said screw you. Ill take my business elsewhere. And walked out.
lol

Originally Posted by rangerdavid View Post
that's a crock.......... go to another LBS. When I purhased mine, they allowed me up to 30 minutes on each bike I test rode, and trust me, I rode a bunch!!! from the specializd allez, the CAAD 9 I eventually purchased, a Six, a Trek, and really several more i can't even remember.

any shop that won.t allow a test ride can.t really expect to sell the bike............ IMHO
And how many of those bikes have an integrated seatmast?

(I'll give you a hint, it's less than 1)

I bought my bike as a frame, didn't test ride it, have never ridden a bike made by the same company but I knew what I was looking for, did some research and went with recommendations from people I trust.


Test riding bikes is way over rated.

Couldn't be more happy with it.
MONGO! is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.