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Don't run red lights.

Old 09-27-09, 11:00 PM
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Don't run red lights.

I apologize if it's been posted.

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Old 09-27-09, 11:15 PM
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That's stupid. Many areas of the US permit motorvehicles (and by extension us) to proceed if safe, when the light is unresponsive or malfunctioning.

He came to a complete stop. He didn't 'run' the light
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Malfunctioning light and a light not changing the moment you approach it are not the same thing.
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That was very graphic and disturbing.
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I just read that in Idaho you can actually do what he is doing?
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I just read that in Idaho you can actually do what he is doing?
You mean pick his head up of the street and put it back on?
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It is LEGAL to go on a red after waiting through three light cycles without triggering the light on a bycicle or motorcycle......
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Originally Posted by Mac_48
It is LEGAL to go on a red after waiting through three light cycles without triggering the light on a bycicle or motorcycle......
I've heard this before but it makes no sense to me.
If the lights don't trigger then they don't cycle.
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I saw this earlier today on Gizmodo.

It's hard to pause it at the right moment but the reaction on the guy's face at the moment of impact is priceless.

Also, I fall into the camp of not running red lights unless it is truly non-responsive (ie: failure to trip the induction loop sensor). Oddly enough, here in Washington that is still not legal grounds to proceed.

Anyway, that was a cute commercial. It ranks right up there with the UK bicycle awareness advert that asks you to count how many basketball passes occur in 15 seconds.
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Originally Posted by Dick Rhee
I saw this earlier today on Gizmodo.

It's hard to pause it at the right moment but the reaction on the guy's face at the moment of impact is priceless.

Also, I fall into the camp of not running red lights unless it is truly non-responsive (ie: failure to trip the induction loop sensor). Oddly enough, here in Washington that is still not legal grounds to proceed.

Anyway, that was a cute commercial. It ranks right up there with the UK bicycle awareness advert that asks you to count how many basketball passes occur in 15 seconds.
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Quick, somebody tell the Nyack Ride.
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Originally Posted by AllenG
I've heard this before but it makes no sense to me.
If the lights don't trigger then they don't cycle.
I've actually seen this a couple times: a traffic light leading out of a parking lot doesn't have a sensor (I don't know why), though the major street it feeds onto has sensors in both directions. I pulled up to the non-sensored light and watched the cross-traffic lights go yellow, then red (presumably on a timer), and then back to green when well-timed a crossing car approaches the light (triggered by the sensor?), without my light ever turning green.
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I will continue to run red lights, just saying. Especially on the Nyack ride.
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that film was very disturbing I may need counceling.
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+1 for therapy.

BTW, that lego guy is a major Fred.
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In South Carolina, it's legal after one cycle.
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It appears that he came to a complete stop and looked both ways before proceeding into the intersection. What's the problem?
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Originally Posted by Nachoman
What's the problem?
he got hit by a car.
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Originally Posted by AllenG
I've heard this before but it makes no sense to me.
If the lights don't trigger then they don't cycle.
There's an intersection I go through all the time where a smaller road T's into a larger road. The usual cycle is that traffic is stopped for one direction across the top of the T, so oncoming traffic can turn left onto the smaller road. To turn left FROM the smaller road, you have to trigger the detector loop, which, fortunately, even a CF bike can do.

Except when it was broken - only once, fortunately. I watched the lights change three times without giving me a green, so I proceeded through the red. This was pretty scary, since the traffic there goes about 50-60 mph, and the gap I had was pretty small.
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
he got hit by a car.
I laughed too hard at this.
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Originally Posted by ScarcelyAware
I laughed too hard at this.
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Originally Posted by kle
I've actually seen this a couple times: a traffic light leading out of a parking lot doesn't have a sensor (I don't know why), though the major street it feeds onto has sensors in both directions. I pulled up to the non-sensored light and watched the cross-traffic lights go yellow, then red (presumably on a timer), and then back to green when well-timed a crossing car approaches the light (triggered by the sensor?), without my light ever turning green.
Yeah, that makes sense, but it leaves me wondering am I screwed at this intersection on my morning commute with a 2 cycle light? At 5:50am, there is rarely a car at that intersection, so I could wait for a long time.
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For the California folks: I dare someone to find in the CVC where it specifies the number of cycles it takes to determine when malfunctioning or unresponsive... Might be there for Motor vehicles but I think there's a clause for Motorcycles/bicycles? (Mostly because I'm lazy and don't feel like proving myself wrong...)
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Originally Posted by bdcheung
he got hit by a car.
OMG.




I'm still laughing.
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