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Advice needed (sorry another first bike question)

Old 09-29-09, 10:29 AM
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Advice needed (sorry another first bike question)

I'm in the process of buying my first road bike and could use some input from expereienced riders.

My situation: I'm a runner (with a history of pretty serious back issues - have had one surgery already) that's recently taken up cycling in order to lose a few pounds and make fitness more interesting. Right now I could see myself trying to ride 75 - 100 miles a week which will include a 25-30 mile ride on the weekends. I've been riding a friend's 54 in Specialized Alleze for a month or so just to see what this cycling sport is all about. So far I love it and could see this as a pretty serious hobby as I try to get fit. Through research and talking to my LBS about my aching back it appears the more "relaxed" style bikes are what I need (i.e. Felt Z series, Roubaix, etc). The LBS I'd like to form a relationship with carries the Felt line and others (that are out of my price range) so Felt seems like a good way to start.

I've ridden both the new Felt Z5 and the new Z6 and both feel pretty good. So let's assume both fit me in size (54 in). Should I spend the extra $$$ on the Z5 (shimano 105) versus the Z6 (shimano Tiagra)?

Will the Z6 be a good starter bike? I'd like to purchase a bike I will not want to upgrade in a yr or so. Seems like bikes in general lose their value pretty quickly.

Please help me understand the difference in these two bikes. Is it just a 105 vs Tiagra situation??

I've copied the specs below.

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Z6:
Frame: Felt Classic Racing Specific Geometry. HM High Modulus Modular Carbon Fiber Frame w/ 3K Finish. forged Dropout & Replaceable Hanger.

Fork: Felt 1.4 HM High Modulus Carbon design w/ 3K Finish, Carbon Blades, crown & 1 1/8 steerer, aluminum Dropouts w/ Felt Compression Device

Drivetrain: Shimano Tiagra STI, Sora braze on front derailleur, Tiagra rear derailleur, FSA Omega compact, 2-pc, forged aluminum, 50/34T crankset, 11-25T cassette

Components: Dual pivot brakes w/ Cartridge brake shoes, Stainless hardware & Teflon bushings, Felt 2.3 6061 aluminum handlebar, Felt 2.1 Adjustable 6061 3D forged stem, Felt 1.3 Carbon Fiber seatpost, Felt 2.2 Anatomic Road saddle w/ D2 Double-Density base, custom embossed cover & hollow Cr-Mo rails

Wheelset: MAVIC CXP-22N aluminum rim w/ machined UB Control braking surface & wear indicator laced 32H radial front/32H 3x rear w/ Cr-Mo quick release skewer & Stainless 2.0mm spokes

MSRP: $1599

Z5:
Frame: Felt Classic Racing Specific Geometry. HM High Modulus Modular Carbon Fiber Frame w/ 3K Finish. forged Dropout & Replaceable Hanger.

Fork: Felt 1.4 HM High Modulus Carbon design w/ 3K Finish, Carbon Blades, crown & 1 1/8 steerer, aluminum Dropouts w/ Felt Compression Device

Drivetrain: Shimano 105 STI, 105 braze on front derailleur, 105 rear derailleur, FSA Omega compact, 2-pc, forged aluminum, 50/34T crankset, Shimano 10-Speed chain, 11-25T cassette

Components: Dual pivot brakes w/ Cartridge brake shoes, Stainless hardware & Teflon bushings, Felt 2.3 6061 aluminum handlebar, Felt 2.1 Adjustable 6061 3D forged stem, Felt 1.2 Carbon Fiber seatpost, Felt 2.2 Anatomic Road saddle w/ D2 Double-Density base, custom embossed cover & hollow Cr-Mo rails

Wheelset: MAVIC CXP-22N aluminum rim w/ machined UB Control braking surface & wear indicator laced 32H radial front/32H 3x rear w/ Cr-Mo quick release skewer & Stainless 2.0mm w/ aluminum nipples

MSRP: $1999
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They appear similar...however Im not sure that 105 is worth 400 more. The 105 is better than tiagra, but for 400 more you could probably outfit it with 6700 (Ultegra) for not much more
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i would go with the z5 for the small price increase. tiagra (with a sora fd) is fine for recreational riding, but 105 is IMO the best value in the shimano line, and can easily last over a decade if cared for properly, if this frame fits you well, it could easily be the last you need to buy.

also i dont know anything at all about felt bikes, but "racing specific geometry" doesnt lead me to believe its too "relaxed" - which is what you said you are looking for...
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did you consider a steel bike? if you try one you may find the ride a bit softer

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I'd go with the Tiagra. The latest Tiagra is nearly identical to 105 minus one cog in the back.
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also i dont know anything at all about felt bikes, but "racing specific geometry" doesnt lead me to believe its too "relaxed" - which is what you said you are looking for...
Yeah I thought that was a little misleading myself but according to Felt - "the Z is built to make every ride more enjoyable by maximizing performance and comfort over the long haul. Felt took the assured handling of the time-tested F-series and modified the positioning with a slightly longer head tube, sloping top tube and longer wheelbase for confident handling at any speed."

I compared the frame geometry to the Specialized Roubaix and they are very similiar. I'm now considering the Roubaix elite b/c I found another bike shop not too far away that carries the specialized line. Looks like I missed out on the '09 models though.

Haven't heard too many complaints about the Roubaix.
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