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Best tubular tyre?

Old 10-08-09, 12:53 AM
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Best tubular tyre?

So I'm going to be racing on tubs next year, with one wheelset for races like the Dengie Marshes (local paris-roubaix style race on farm tracks) and another really light one for hilly stuff on good roads. I've used Conti GP 4000s for everything, and appreciated its durability and good handling, and it goes quite fast. Used Gatorskins for the Dengie, but they don't handle well or go fast, I'd have preferred GP 4 seasons but couldn't afford them at the time.
Thing is, people don't seem to have a high opinion of Conti tubs. I hear they are a coarse casing, not very fast. So what should I get? The Conti sprinter Gatorskin is a way expensive training tyre- Conti admit they make a tyre specifically for the pros to ride at the classics, and this isn't it. The GP 4000 tub has no stitching so isn't repairable, so not an option on my budget.

Any recommendations? My friend uses Vittorias, says they are very fast and handle well, and I hear good things of Veloflex. What are your suggestions?
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Old 10-08-09, 12:58 AM
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fixing tubulars really isn't/shouldn't be an issue in deciding what to buy.

i've always liked vittorias
tufos suck
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Old 10-08-09, 06:15 AM
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Vittoria, specifically the Pave, which is designed and ridden at Paris Roubaix. I like the Corsa CR for inexpensive training tires, and they handle and ride very nicely, the base tape's flat, they're just a nice tire.
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Old 10-08-09, 02:39 PM
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Hmm, seems everyone loves the Vittorias. So what's the issue with Contis?

And of course repairing tyres is an issue! I'm not going to spend £50 on a tyre to throw it out if I hit a flint in my first ride! I'm not doing that until somebody pays me to do so, it's a total waste, apart from the money. But I'm the kind of chap with 10 patches on the innertubes in my training wheels.
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Conti's don't ride like tubulars, they ride more like clinchers. Sprinters aren't bad for the money (but they have been steadily going up in price). Competitions are overpriced and a cheaper Vittoria EVO-CX rides nicer
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I like Veloflex. Either Criterium or Carbon. If you have the cash, Dugast or FMB.
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Vittoria, IMO is the best readily-had tubular tire you can buy. Are there better tires? Sure, but if you want to shell out $180-220 on a Dugast, that's up to you.

I've been racing on the Vittoria Evo-CG Pave tubular all year. It's saved my life a few times.
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And I'll contradict everyone else and say that I love the way that my Tufo Elites' ride. Contis are not very true and give a rough bumpy ride.
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I used Sprinter 250s a long time ago, they were OK. Paves, CGs are the best.
Using cheaper tires wasn't worth it for me (exception Sprinters). Paves just work.
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loving my tufo jet specials... great cornering low rolling resistance... feel solid as a rock...
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I haven't ridden tubulars in many years, but if I were to return to the world of "tubs" I'd likely glue up a pair of Andre Dugast hand-made tyres.
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Originally Posted by WxGuesser View Post
tufo... ...rock
well at least you got that part right. and tufos always testy last in rolling resistance
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conti competitions have a stiffer ride, but I still find them fast. I've ridden victtorias for years, but ever since they moved their factory to thailand, they seem to fall apart after a few months of riding. veloflex are made by the old vittoria factory in italy and they look like vittorias. I've ridden tufos, depends on the model, the cheap models don't ride well and don't last.
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the ride of the velofelx carbon 22mm I used this year is incredible. roll very fast and durable.
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I like Gommitalia Espressos, not terribly expensive but somewhat difficult to find.
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Originally Posted by zzzwillzzz View Post
well at least you got that part right. and tufos always testy last in rolling resistance
just imagine if i had better tubs....
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Take your pick:

https://worldclasscycles.com/tubular_tires_only_cart.htm
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I have always liked Vittoria, with the expecption of the very early formula one. Contis are ok but I dislike the dark sidewall

are you in a club? what do the others ride?
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TUFO tires are durable and tough as nails but they compromise the supple feel of what a tire is supposed to do. Vittoria is probably the best for the money. I would try the Challenge Roubaix tire. It's made like the Vittoria but cheaper and has seamless latex tube. Oh yeah!
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My clubmates mostly ride Conti GP4000 clinchers, as I do. The friends on tubs are on Vittorias mostly. I don't think any of us can afford to race on tubs made from silk hand sewn by Eddy's mother or whatever those Durgast tyres are. Nor do we get our legs shaved at Trumpers and wear Creed cologne as a deodorant during races. So yes, I'm talking about tubs priced for mere mortals.

So why do Conti make such lame tubs? They make different ones for their sponsored teams, I've seen the photos- they just have the conti logo and a serial number. Why not sell them to retailers? Their tyres are very good.
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Originally Posted by fogrider View Post
conti competitions have a stiffer ride, but I still find them fast. I've ridden victtorias for years, but ever since they moved their factory to thailand, they seem to fall apart after a few months of riding. veloflex are made by the old vittoria factory in italy and they look like vittorias. I've ridden tufos, depends on the model, the cheap models don't ride well and don't last.
I've never had that problem with my Vittoria's. I raced all season on my CG's and replaced the rear with two races to go in the season because it was a little square and lost it's diamonds.
Getting a whole season of hard racing on a tubular with no premature wear or flats is pretty good, IMO.
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Bontrager RXL Pro. Blazing Crr, good puncture resistance.
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hi, i'm abit new to all this biking malarky but need new tyres for my second hand bike. wondering what type of tyre i need. my bike is a Giant OCR 1 and the current tyres are schwalbe blizzard sport 700X23c. whats the diffence between tubulars and clinchers??? looking at these tyres below just for general fitness training which usually involves a 2 hour ride a couple of times a week, currently weigh in at about 13 stone, 190 pounds. is that a decent tyre for me? any suggestions for better 1's? thanks.

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vittoria-Rubin...d=p3286.c0.m14
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gone for a pair of vredestein's instead at half price. anybody got any experience of these tires?

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Vredestein-Ric...d=p3286.c0.m14
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