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urbanknight 10-17-09 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by mike047 (Post 9873506)
This my understanding of "most";
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/most

How would your understanding differ?

I have fallen 4 times in the last 10 weeks. I have not fallen since I got my new Shimano pedals.:D

I know this has turned into a lengthy thread, but the discussion on that is a few pages back.

bretgross 10-22-09 09:12 PM

Not with clipless.
But a couple times about 30 years ago while riding with clips & straps!

Brookew 10-22-09 11:01 PM

I fell several times when I first started using clipless pedals. I fell because I forgot about the pedals and was braking for a stop. I have also fallen over after really long rides and my legs were too tired to do the correct motion to unclip (those were really tired legs on really long rides). I fell once on a steep hill - going really slow and didn't have time to unclip or something.

Barese Rider 10-23-09 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by gnome (Post 9873352)
So quick conclusions: The majority of people using clipless pedals will or have fallen due to failing to unclip from their pedals, usually just after learning. The rest have either suffered their pratfalls prior to the introduction of clipless pedals or are skilled/alert/lucky etc enough to have avoided falling due to failing to uncliping (bastiges :p).

I think one can draw the conclusion that at least half of those who fell were too stupid to try and learn how to use them before going out for a ride wearing them. I mean spending 10 minutes on a trainor learning how to clip and unclip aint a big deal.

Tsuru 10-23-09 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by Barese Rider (Post 9910437)
I think one can draw the conclusion that at least half of those who fell were too stupid to try and learn how to use them before going out for a ride wearing them. I mean spending 10 minutes on a trainor learning how to clip and unclip aint a big deal.

Yeah, sheesh, what a bunch of dumbasses for not buying a trainer when they went clipless, eh? And don't get me started on all the idiots who rode tons of miles clipless, but then had a situation where they didn't unhook in time! Gawd, they obviously are just stoopid and should just quit cycling now, eh?

sinclac 10-23-09 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Barese Rider (Post 9910437)
I think one can draw the conclusion that at least half of those who fell were too stupid to try and learn how to use them before going out for a ride wearing them. I mean spending 10 minutes on a trainor learning how to clip and unclip aint a big deal.

I think one can draw the conclusion that you don't have a clue what you are talking about.

C5000 10-23-09 07:42 AM

the .5 mph fall is a rite of passage for road cyclists. My first was with clips and straps. Hasn't happened to me in 15 years though.

jdon 10-23-09 07:53 AM

You don't need a trainer. One foot on the ground, clip the other in and out. Got the hang of it? Good, go riding. I have no advice on which way to lean as you come to a stop. If you can't figure that out, stick to flat pedals.

SKYLAB 10-23-09 08:26 AM

My first clipless fall was on an mtb. I'd had the pedals for the entire summer and really had not had issues. Then in early July we rode over the Divide from Rollinsville and down in to Winter Park, taking some sweet single track and flying into town. Sure enough, we pulled up to one of the two stop lights in town and, as we wait for a group of young women to cross in front of us, I sloooowly ...fell.....over. Ended up laying under the bike still clipped in.

Tsuru 10-23-09 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by SKYLAB (Post 9910942)
My first clipless fall was on an mtb. I'd had the pedals for the entire summer and really had not had issues. Then in early July we rode over the Divide from Rollinsville and down in to Winter Park, taking some sweet single track and flying into town. Sure enough, we pulled up to one of the two stop lights in town and, as we wait for a group of young women to cross in front of us, I sloooowly ...fell.....over. Ended up laying under the bike still clipped in.

shoulda got on a trainer for 10 minutes, stupid poopy head.



;)

OBXCycling.com 11-07-09 10:28 AM

Change my vote
:mad:

coasting 11-07-09 10:33 AM

i say umd is still wrong

Tsuru 11-07-09 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 9999665)
i say umd is still wrong

Of course he is. Because... no matter how good and adept as you may be in clipless, there is one universal law.... "SH*T HAPPENS".

OBXCycling.com 11-07-09 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 9999665)
i say umd is still wrong

Nah. I'm sure there are people more coordinated than I. I hadn't fallen till this am.

Damn new cleats!*




(*Yes, that's my official excuse)

BarracksSi 11-07-09 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by OBXCycling.com (Post 9999660)
Change my vote
:mad:

:roflmao2:

coasting 11-07-09 11:01 AM

hey, umd.

http://www.slapyo.com/wp-content/wrong06.jpg

dauphin 11-07-09 01:02 PM

Twice. Once in the parking lot at Curry Village in Yosemite and the other day in front of the tire shop that was installing tires on my car. The first was with spd and the recent one was spd-sl. In both cases, it was a mental lapse..a split second of not paying attention. My fault, not the pedals.

BarracksSi 11-07-09 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by dauphin (Post 10000095)
In both cases, it was a mental lapse..a split second of not paying attention. My fault, not the pedals.

The point is, would you have fallen with conventional platform pedals with no foot retention? Could you say, "If I were using regular pedals, I would've caught myself."?

umd 11-07-09 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by coasting (Post 9999665)
i say umd is still wrong

How can I be wrong? It was a poll.

crhilton 11-07-09 04:18 PM

Holy crap, 182 people lied about this already!

crhilton 11-07-09 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by SKYLAB (Post 9910942)
My first clipless fall was on an mtb. I'd had the pedals for the entire summer and really had not had issues. Then in early July we rode over the Divide from Rollinsville and down in to Winter Park, taking some sweet single track and flying into town. Sure enough, we pulled up to one of the two stop lights in town and, as we wait for a group of young women to cross in front of us, I sloooowly ...fell.....over. Ended up laying under the bike still clipped in.

The hotter they are the more pathetically you fall down.

crhilton 11-07-09 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Kneez (Post 9870117)
I do confess though that sometimes I still have trouble getting INTO them rather than getting out. That can look pretty stupid as well.

It's especially hard on a fixed gear. Tried that once, spent 5 minutes getting my foot into the pedal.

Now, clipless on a fixed gear: A gift from God.

crhilton 11-07-09 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by snowman40 (Post 9845336)
I fell saturday because I missed the curb but insisted it was under my right foot....

TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMBERRRRRR! :)

A few scrapes and bruises...I decided to return home and clean up. Glad I did, I found a pea sized (maybe a little bigger) dent in my helmet.....went and got a new one later that day.

You make me sad.

andrewluke 11-07-09 04:47 PM

Today. I was getting out of the gate by my place and had my right foot clipped. I almost got clipped by a car and dodged right... First scratch on my new baby... It gives her character.

umd 11-07-09 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by crhilton (Post 10000784)
Holy crap, 182 people lied about this already!

fail

urbanknight 11-07-09 05:23 PM


Originally Posted by crhilton (Post 10000784)
Holy crap, 182 people lied about this already!

:roflmao2:

JimmyGlass 11-07-09 05:37 PM

I have only been riding for a little more than two months, and yesterday was my first day with clipless pedals, and I did fall. I was using speedplays. I remembered to unclip each time I stopped - I actually fell trying to get in. I had the right foot clipped in and was trying to get the left one to clip and was concentrating too on hard on that and wasnt paying attention to my speed and I fell over to my right. No injuries, but it did hurt quite a bit.

cyclezealot 11-07-09 05:38 PM

The first week or so, its really a revolutionary change. Falling a couple times initially is normal. Practice before you hit the road , so that you fall in controlled conditions. When you get used to it, it will be totally automatic. You'll unclick without a second thought.

shouldberiding 11-07-09 06:52 PM

I've fallen because I was exhausted mentally or physically and couldn't get my foot out period. I've fallen because some jerk cut me off when I was coming to a stop and I tipped over on the clipped in side. Same happened trying to avoid a speeding car at an intersection under heavy braking. I've fallen because I lost traction.

But I don't think I've really ever fallen because of the pedals themselves.

Voted yes though because I think these apply in the spirit of the poll question.

umd 11-07-09 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by shouldberiding (Post 10001465)
Voted yes though because I think these apply in the spirit of the poll question.


Originally Posted by shouldberiding (Post 10001465)
I've fallen because I was exhausted mentally or physically and couldn't get my foot out period.

Yes


Originally Posted by shouldberiding (Post 10001465)
I've fallen because some jerk cut me off when I was coming to a stop and I tipped over on the clipped in side.

Yes


Originally Posted by shouldberiding (Post 10001465)
Same happened trying to avoid a speeding car at an intersection under heavy braking.

Maybe... did you fall when you were stopped or still moving? Would it have mattered if you were not clipped in?


Originally Posted by shouldberiding (Post 10001465)
I've fallen because I lost traction.

No


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