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What exactly is considered a fast group ride?

Old 10-21-09, 07:00 AM
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What exactly is considered a fast group ride?

Considering average speed...

What would an average speed be on this ride.
http://www.mapmyride.com/route//va/a...25607859327069
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I would consider the average speed of a fast ride is somewhere around 37 - 41 MPH. Maybe higher with the descents.

That's just me....
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I bet a fast group ride would do that in about 2 hours. Regular group ride would probably come in at the 2.5 hour mark. Mind you, these are just rough estimates. The only way to find out for sure is if you find a fast group ride and ride the loop with them.
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25mph.

Or find a group that you can't hang on to and find out their avg. speed. Fast is relative to what you can do.
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a fast group ride is relative to your and other riders fitness. Quoting speed, whether that is 10mph or 30mph, will never describe a fast ride.
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It's all relative to terrain, the group, your fitness.

This is pretty typical for our Tuesday night ride.

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Ah, Florida...
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Just wondering. We have a CAT 2 rider that rides with us sometimes. I can hang with him for about 30-35 miles but then hit a wall and finish a couple minutes behind him.
I also can't climb worth a darn and he will leave me there.
I don't live in an area that is flat by any means. I live in Southwest Virginia. Very close to Boone, Asheville, etc...
On the slight upgrade towards the end of my ride I can keep my pace at about 28mph.
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Originally Posted by hodie21 View Post
Just wondering. We have a CAT 2 rider that rides with us sometimes. I can hang with him for about 30-35 miles but then hit a wall and finish a couple minutes behind him.
I also can't climb worth a darn and he will leave me there.
I don't live in an area that is flat by any means. I live in Southwest Virginia. Very close to Boone, Asheville, etc...
On the slight upgrade towards the end of my ride I can keep my pace at about 28mph.
I think you can consider that to be fast.
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Originally Posted by LoneCyclone View Post
I would consider the average speed of a fast ride is somewhere around 37 - 41 MPH. Maybe higher with the descents.

That's just me....

Would that be dialed in at 400 watts?
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I don't consider myself particularly fast, on the scale of people who race anyway, but following Merlin's lead here is some data from some of my local rides, keeping in mind that these were all done recently and it's kind of the "off season" right now:

This is the Tuesday "hammerfest" lunch ride. We try to kill each other for half an hour or so and then head back to work. There are a few places where we sprint, then turn around and do a rolling regroup.


This is the middle part of the Saturday "lake ride". It's not as fast but there are a few hills, and a regroup and water stop.
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Originally Posted by hodie21 View Post
Just wondering. We have a CAT 2 rider that rides with us sometimes. I can hang with him for about 30-35 miles but then hit a wall and finish a couple minutes behind him.
I also can't climb worth a darn and he will leave me there.
I don't live in an area that is flat by any means. I live in Southwest Virginia. Very close to Boone, Asheville, etc...
On the slight upgrade towards the end of my ride I can keep my pace at about 28mph.
I call BS on "keep my pace at about 28mph on a slight upgrade"
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
I don't consider myself particularly fast, on the scale of people who race anyway, but following Merlin's lead here is some data from some of my local rides, keeping in mind that these were all done recently and it's kind of the "off season" right now:
Good God in Heaven I'm slow. You people just floor me.
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
I call BS on "keep my pace at about 28mph on a slight upgrade"
He's easy to find- he's the one in the yellow jersey trying to catch the asian guy on the r600 who just dialed up to 450 watts.
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Originally Posted by LoneCyclone View Post
I would consider the average speed of a fast ride is somewhere around 37 - 41 MPH. Maybe higher with the descents.

That's just me....
Personally I like things to be a bit faster. About 54 usually--don't want to break the national speed limit you know?
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+1 on the BS
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Originally Posted by gkelley View Post
+1 on the BS
Especially since he's the OP as well.
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A fast group ride is the one you struggle to stay in contact with. Depending on terrain that can vary greatly.

Around here a group ride that I do that has a decent amount of climbing (~2k ft IIRC) (Chicago style climbing that is) and that I stay competitive in comes in around 22mph for <30 miles.

Our shop/team ride attracts a lot of area 1/2, past pro, current pro, ex olympians, ex-national champs, etc racers can often fall into the 24-26mph range as an average for close to 40 miles. Rolling terrain.
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28mph is a just a rough fredstimate.
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28mph max maybe. any average > 20mph is fast to me.
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Fast is relative.
If you're keeping up and talking, it's not fast.
If you're keeping up and breathing heavily but still able to say a few words, it's slightly fast.
If you're keeping up and breathing heavily but grunting like a caveman, it's getting fast.
If you're keeping up and breathing erratically, swearing in your mind, and cursing the guys pulling the group, it's getting fast.
If I'm up front, it's considered fast. And you'd be dropped within a mile or so.
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The bike club here that I joined for a Wednesday night ride a few months back, the "fast group" that left first through rolling hill territory was doing about 25/26 +/- a few mph depending on the situation.
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Originally Posted by khatfull View Post
Good God in Heaven I'm slow. You people just floor me.
Amen!

I was proud when I broke 16.5 mph as an AVERAGE for a ride over 15 miles.

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