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Who's your ti frame builder?

Old 10-30-09, 11:04 AM
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Old 10-30-09, 11:32 AM
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I LOVE my Opera but if I had the money, I'd get a Seven.
I have a Seven. Getting a custom bike was fun. I didn't really need the custom dimensions but having the tubeset spec'd to my riding style is cool. I went with the lightweight model (Aeros) but the rear was built stiffer.
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Old 10-30-09, 01:19 PM
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With the right sticker kit, a brushed finish Ti Bike can look ok. I agree though, that some of them look rather bland.

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Originally Posted by FigBug View Post
Everti


Everti's are made by the Taiwanese same builder as the Motobecane Ti frame offered by Bikesdirect. And the Motobecane frame is $700 cheaper. Same frame. same geometry.
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Old 10-30-09, 08:10 PM
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I ride a Merlin, or the rack, so to speak and really like it. I is a 2001 frame and very comfortable. Not quite the climbing machine that my Orbea Orca is but much more comfortable on the rough stuff. My sister rides a custom sized Serotta Ti. Also a beautiful bike.
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Old 10-30-09, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Fox Farm View Post
I ride a Merlin, or the rack, so to speak and really like it. I is a 2001 frame and very comfortable. Not quite the climbing machine that my Orbea Orca is but much more comfortable on the rough stuff. My sister rides a custom sized Serotta Ti. Also a beautiful bike.
Sorry, keyboard is acting up. It is an "off" the race stock sized Merlin, circa 2001/
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the responses are interesting...only one serotta so far? well, I'll be the second. I have a 2002 Legend Ti with brushed finish and polished logos. the tubes are very stiff and great ride. I'm not sure my next bike will be ti.
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Old 10-31-09, 12:25 AM
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If I had the money, Tom Kellogg of Spectrum.
I had one of those in the early 90's. Broke in two places. Left it out with the trash.
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I gather there were some QC issues with earlier fabrication at Merlin, which built Tom's bikes (and still do, though the company was bought by ABG 10 years ago or so).

I bought a Spectrum a few years ago. Went to Tom's barn for the fitting, came up with a custom paint scheme, had him build the complete bike, etc. Fit was absolutely perfect out of the box, and I have no concerns about its long term durability.
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Originally Posted by H1449-6 View Post

I bought a Spectrum a few years ago. Went to Tom's barn for the fitting, came up with a custom paint scheme, had him build the complete bike, etc. Fit was absolutely perfect out of the box, and I have no concerns about its long term durability.
That Spectrum had some nice snap.
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Old 10-31-09, 04:58 AM
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Nice ride. Now get rid of that stupid Harley and we can be friends.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
I had one of those in the early 90's. Broke in two places. Left it out with the trash.


Interesting. I didn't know that the early Merlins and Spectrums had manufacturing issues. Always thought of Kellof and Merlin as reputable, and their Ti frames as lasting "forever".
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Old 10-31-09, 10:54 PM
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Old 10-31-09, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bellweatherman View Post
Interesting. I didn't know that the early Merlins and Spectrums had manufacturing issues. Always thought of Kellof and Merlin as reputable, and their Ti frames as lasting "forever".
Nothing always lasts forever, but Ti comes pretty close.

• My Spectrum was an early 90's model (c. 1991) straight gauge tubing frame, not butted tubing (which I believe is stronger

• The frame didn't break until 1996, at that point it had 40K miles on it

• I was the second owner, so Merlin wouldn't fix it for free, that's why I tossed it.

I've been riding this Ibis Titanium Road since early 1996, it must have 40-50K miles on it by now (only gets ridden a couple of thousand miles each year now, I have a bunch of bicycles). Still feels new.

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Consider that fact that even if Ti would last 100K miles (and most Ti frames probably would) VERY few ever get ridden that far. I'm an avid racing cyclist, my Ti frame is 13 years old now, and it may not even have 50K miles on it. I was out of the sport for 5 years, and now I have two newer road bikes, a TT bike and an MTB that I also ride. So the Ibis has become my rain/snow bike for the most part.

Still love the feel. I think that Ibis Titanium Road is one of the finest Ti bikes ever built. Hell, I may be riding that bad boy when I'm 70+.
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Originally Posted by patentcad View Post
Nice ride. Now get rid of that stupid Harley and we can be friends.


Actually it's going to e-bay in the next week, (gotta have that LITESPEED C1) so that makes us friends, and now if you will get rid of that rice burner, we can be best buddies!


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My '99 Merlin probably has around 50k miles on it, racing and riding, and looks/rides like new.
I'd like a new frame...just for the sake of having a new frame but to get something similar to my Merlin would be pretty much a needless purchase and now that I no longer have access to wholesale or Team supplied I really don't want to spend the money either lol.
But looking at the quality of construction is sure nice and makes me want one regardless.
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