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Speedplay Pedal Recommendations

Old 11-09-09, 06:18 PM
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Speedplay Pedal Recommendations

This spring I am purchasing my first real grown up road bike. If I were any more excited I'd twins

I am trying to slowly procure my accessories between now and purchase time so that I can minimize the financial hit of the purchase and I've been telling my family members that bike accessories make a lovely gift.

I am turning 40 years old in a couple of weeks. I am 6' 7" tall and I weigh 240 lbs. I am a runner who did a half marathon in 2:23 a few weeks ago who has been using a hardtail mountain bike equipped with toe cages and road tires to do 1 or 2 rides per week regularly since the beginning of August. Prior to that I would ride maybe 2 or 3 times per month. I have worked on my cadence this summer and currently can ride comfortably with a cadence in the low 90's up from the 70's this spring. My longest ride I have done is a 24 mile group ride.

I am buying a 63cm 2010 Cannondale CAAD9 5 Compact. I am a beginning road cyclist who wants to do tough training alone, fast club rides, charity tours and events, and have the capability of doing a century some day.

I have decided to go with Speedplay pedals based on recommendations from a few experienced cyclists but I am looking for input on which model to buy.

Here are my options...

Speedplay X/2 Stainless steel $185
Speedplay x/5 Cro Moly $115
(permanently full floating pedal)

Speedplay Zero Stainless steel $195
Cro Moly $125
(fully adjustable float from fixed to fully floating)

Speedplay Light Action Stainless steel $185
Cro Moly $115
(full float...recommended that this pedal not be used for racing and recommended for "light-weight cyclists" does that mean I would be "too big" for this pedal but it does state that it is the easiest pedal to get into and out of. Would you think that I need a "tougher" pedal?)

Would I get $70 worth of value from stainless instead of cro moly? My instinct says I would get more bang out of getting an extra set of bibs or an extra jersey.

I appreciate your input. Thanks everybody.
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Old 11-09-09, 06:53 PM
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I use X-5's. I think I would notice the price difference much more than the minimal weight difference with the X-2's. And I don't ever worry about breaking a spindle. If I ever wear them out, I'll gladly get another pair.
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I'd recommend Zeros. Stainless is probably cool if you have the scratch, but no, you won't get anything for your $70 extra.

I believe the Zero cleats have an updated spring design - I haven't ever had clogging problems. I haven't ridden them but I suspect the X series and older pedals are the ones that gave Speedplays the reputation for clogging with mud.
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Agreed, get the Zeros. Unlike the X-series, the "bail" on the Zero family remains stationary on the pedal. All the wear-out movement is going on inside the cleat itself, which you'll replace probably yearly. Smarter. Plus you can adjust the float.

The stainless-axle variants are made in the USA, that's part of why they cost more. Methodically lubricate the cleat internals with a dry lube as the instructions say, and periodically check the snugness of the four bolts... it's no fun having those babies work loose. They're dipped with thread-locker, but that's not always enough.
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Old 11-09-09, 07:16 PM
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When you receive the zeros out of the box do you have to make any adjustments to the pedals before installation or are they set in a "neutral" position?
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Old 11-09-09, 07:29 PM
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another vote for the zeros. I have lite actions right now and love them, but when they wear out I will be making the jump to zeros. The adjustable float is a good thing to have.
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63cm bike? holy. what are you, a monster?
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Originally Posted by Kurogashi View Post
63cm bike? holy. what are you, a monster?
I've been called that. I refer to myself as a "Freak of Nature." I am 6' 7" tall with a bicycle inseam of about 40.5". I put my measurements in an online fit calculator. The recommendation that came for frame size was between 66cm and 67cm. Since the only way I could go that big was custom and I don't have that kind of budget, I chose the tallest standover height I could find in production which was the Cannondale CAAD9 in a 63cm.
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I've used the X series for 20 years. The huge range of unlimited free float bothers some people. If that's you, go for the Zero's. Otherwise the X series are great.

Between the X2's and X 5's, I'd go X2's. I have X1's, X2's and x5's. The X2's are the sweetspot.

The X2's have better bearings than the x5's, and no issue with the stainless steel rusting, whearas the CroMo X5's will rust.
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Originally Posted by Kurogashi View Post
63cm bike? holy. what are you, a monster?
No, he's just not short. (As he stated in his original post, he's 6'7", 240 pounds).

Hey, tallcoolone -- please be sure to post a photo of your bike when you get it. I'll enjoy seeing a bike that doesn't look like the top tube is attached to the down tube!

What wheels are you going to have on the new bike? I'm not quite your size (6'4", 215 pounds), but I've never been comfortable with the wheels that come on most 'off the rack' bikes.
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I'm going to run stock wheels until I wear those out. I'm a very beginner road cyclist so it's going to be a while before my wheels are the limiting factor in my performance on the bike. After that, who knows?
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Originally Posted by Tall Cool One View Post
When you receive the zeros out of the box do you have to make any adjustments to the pedals before installation or are they set in a "neutral" position?
If I remember correctly, mine were dialed all the way out for maximum float. Setting them yourself is very easy.

I really do adore the pedals. Once you get used to the feeling of pedaling on ice cubes, it's great. Took five minutes for me, but I've only been riding seriously (or what I consider seriously, at least) for a year and a half.
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Originally Posted by Tall Cool One View Post
I've been called that. I refer to myself as a "Freak of Nature." I am 6' 7" tall with a bicycle inseam of about 40.5". I put my measurements in an online fit calculator. The recommendation that came for frame size was between 66cm and 67cm. Since the only way I could go that big was custom and I don't have that kind of budget, I chose the tallest standover height I could find in production which was the Cannondale CAAD9 in a 63cm.
I'm close to 6'5 and I ride Fuji Roubaix 64cm. Why? Because the 63cm CAAD9 has only tall headtube but the top tube is only 60cm VS 61cm on the Fuji Rubaix. Plus the CAAD 9 has very short reach which make the bike even smaller. CAAD9 is very popular bike around here, but do your own homework before you decide to get one.

Look at this: SuperSix (CAAD9 is same geometry) has very very short reach so the bike will feel even smaller!



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I tried a Fuji out. I have very long legs and a short torso so I am pretty stretched out on the CAAD already. I'm probably going to have to swap out the stock stem. The Fuji felt even more stretched out. Also, the Wrench at the bike shop recommended the CAAD because he felt it was stiffer and would be more sturdy in the seat tube weld area for a and I quote "a big dude like you(meaning me)."
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When you receive the zeros out of the box do you have to make any adjustments to the pedals before installation or are they set in a "neutral" position?
The zeros come with the screws turned in to maybe 10 degrees of float or so, but adjusting float is very very easy. You adjust them when you put them on your shoes, for me, I put the lower triangle plate all the way back on the shoes and then center the main cleat. Once you get the cleats mounted, you don't need any adjustments to use them.

I'd recommend the basic Zeros, adjustable float, great price.
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Originally Posted by brian416 View Post
The zeros come with the screws turned in to maybe 10 degrees of float or so, but adjusting float is very very easy. You adjust them when you put them on your shoes, for me, I put the lower triangle plate all the way back on the shoes and then center the main cleat. Once you get the cleats mounted, you don't need any adjustments to use them.

I'd recommend the basic Zeros, adjustable float, great price.
That's what I think I am leaning toward. I can't wait to get this bike. My wife and I bought a new Ford F150 this spring. I have done way more shopping/research for this bike than we did for the truck.
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Originally Posted by Tall Cool One View Post
When you receive the zeros out of the box do you have to make any adjustments to the pedals before installation or are they set in a "neutral" position?
You actually adjust the cleats, not the pedals and, yes, they come in a neutral position, with a few degres of float in either direction.

I have the cro-moly zeros and they've been great. I lube them once in awhile, but I've never greased them. I think the only advantage of the stainless steel version is a few grams.

Just remember that when you first get them, you'll have some difficulty getting clipped in. After awhile, though, the springs will get a little more flexible and then clipping in (and out) will be easy.
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Zeros are the way to go. I bought Light Actions first, and they were great to start out with clipless, but I really prefer my Zeros now that I am used to them.
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I have used the X2 for about 10 years. Replace cleats once every 12 to 24 months. Use cleat covers and you will make them last much longer. Shop for them on Ebay and pay much less than the prices you stated.
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Originally Posted by merlinextraligh View Post
I've used the X series for 20 years. The huge range of unlimited free float bothers some people. If that's you, go for the Zero's. Otherwise the X series are great.

Between the X2's and X 5's, I'd go X2's. I have X1's, X2's and x5's. The X2's are the sweetspot.

The X2's have better bearings than the x5's, and no issue with the stainless steel rusting, whearas the CroMo X5's will rust.
+1, I find the X2s to be near indestructible and as long as I use the cleat covers the cleats hold up for the full season with no issue as well.
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Originally Posted by Tall Cool One View Post
I tried a Fuji out. I have very long legs and a short torso so I am pretty stretched out on the CAAD already. I'm probably going to have to swap out the stock stem. The Fuji felt even more stretched out. Also, the Wrench at the bike shop recommended the CAAD because he felt it was stiffer and would be more sturdy in the seat tube weld area for a and I quote "a big dude like you(meaning me)."
6'7" and you were stretched out?
The CAAD9 has 60cm TT and 39cm reach and you were stretched out?

Just wonder were you had the opportunity to test ride both of those bikes as I dont know about any bike shop in Southern California that would have 63/64cm bikes in stock. I even spoke with Cannondale sales rep and he told me that he knows about one shop that even carries 60cm CAAD9.

Looks like the "Sales man" at your bike shop already did his work you already made up your mind.

Good luck with your CAAD9, you will fit here just fine

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PS Dont forget to share some pics (with you riding the bike), I'm so curious to see the stretched out super aero fit
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I've got a set of X-1s, X-2s and titaniums. They're all fantastic and basically indistinguishable.
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Speedplay Pedal Recommendations

I started riding about 1 1/2 ago. After about 6 months with cages I converted to Speedplay X pedals. I was on 2 bike rides this year where there was mud and I had major issues and could not get the mud out. On one bike ride I had to ride 30 miles through hills.... with just one clip in.... I have been told the Zero's do not have as many issues so I think I may convert to them. I wish you all the best with your bike. As I stated I just started riding 1 1/2 years ago at the ripe old age of 55 and truly love it.
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I would go with either Zeros or the Light Action because they use a the newer spring design than the X series. The new spring is less likely to foul from dirt.

Between the Light Action and the Zeros. If you are going to race, the get the Zeros. If you are just doing recreational rides, then the Light Actions have their merrits. The Light Actions are the easiest pedals to clip in and out of but you can not adjust the float, if that matters. It doesn't matter to me. I am very happy with my Light Action pedals.
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Originally Posted by Jancouver View Post
6'7" and you were stretched out?
The CAAD9 has 60cm TT and 39cm reach and you were stretched out?

Just wonder were you had the opportunity to test ride both of those bikes as I dont know about any bike shop in Southern California that would have 63/64cm bikes in stock. I even spoke with Cannondale sales rep and he told me that he knows about one shop that even carries 60cm CAAD9.

Looks like the "Sales man" at your bike shop already did his work you already made up your mind.

Good luck with your CAAD9, you will fit here just fine

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PS Dont forget to share some pics (with you riding the bike), I'm so curious to see the stretched out super aero fit
I'm just reporting what I experienced at the bike shop man. I'm going from a mountain bike to a road bike. Maybe I don't know what I should be feeling.

You're a big help. Thanks for holding back on the sarcasm.
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