Go Back  Bike Forums > Bike Forums > Road Cycling
Reload this Page >

Bike brand most likely chosen by a typical Fred?

Road Cycling “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best, since you have to sweat up the hills and coast down them. Thus you remember them as they actually are, while in a motor car only a high hill impresses you, and you have no such accurate remembrance of country you have driven through as you gain by riding a bicycle.” -- Ernest Hemingway
View Poll Results: What is the bike brand most likely chosen by a typical Fred?
Bianchi
3
0.85%
Cannondale
20
5.63%
Cervelo
63
17.75%
Colnago
10
2.82%
Giant
15
4.23%
Felt
3
0.85%
Look
3
0.85%
Pinarello
9
2.54%
Specialized
14
3.94%
Trek
215
60.56%
Voters: 355. You may not vote on this poll

Bike brand most likely chosen by a typical Fred?

Old 11-12-09, 02:03 PM
  #51  
PSR215
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 133
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by longbeachgary View Post
do any of you get tired of this fred poser crap?
yes
PSR215 is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 02:04 PM
  #52  
TRaffic Jammer
Dances With Cars
 
TRaffic Jammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 10,527

Bikes: TBL Onyx Pro(ss converted), Pake SS (starting to look kinda pimped)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I can't believe it still goes on. Who's worse, the Freds, the Poseurs, or them's that point the finger?
TRaffic Jammer is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 02:11 PM
  #53  
DataJunkie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,277
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
The ones calling everyone else poseur or freds are the actual poseur or fred. IMHO
Completely and utterly moronic.
DataJunkie is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 02:24 PM
  #54  
elader
Senile member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Boyds, MD
Posts: 179

Bikes: Felt F2C

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I would imagine that the more local shops that carry a brand, the more freds buy them. Poseurs are more difficult to predict since they know to look for the 'elite' names stickered onto on those $350 Taiwan carbon frames that they make fun of from ebay but pay $2500 for after the stickers are on them.

I own two Treks (yikes) because they fit me and I got good deals on them. At this point the bikes are certainly better than my abilities, but it's nice to look at them after a ride. I've ridden close to 2000 miles this year and I still feel like a poseur when some kid on a big wheel comes zooming past me on an uphill :-) The worst is when some old lady on an electric wheelchair passes me and doesn't even shout "on your left"
elader is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 02:29 PM
  #55  
big john
Senior Member
 
big john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 12,098
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 248 Post(s)
Liked 11 Times in 10 Posts
Originally Posted by Doohickie View Post

What are my goals? To minimize car use. To have a healthier lifestyle. To use my bike as a transportation tool. By my definition, a poser is anyone who carries their bike on their car in order to ride it. If you're so geeked up to ride your bike, try riding it to your rides. Be a man.
So now I find out that I'm not a man because I put my bike in my car. What if it's far, then would it be O.K.? If I drive 83 miles to do a 114 mile ride with 12,000 feet of climbing, am I less of a man?
Where can I get a copy of the rule book?
big john is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 02:33 PM
  #56  
DataJunkie
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 14,277
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I believe Doohickie is saying that the rules for being a poseur vary. That is just his version.
DataJunkie is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 03:10 PM
  #57  
bigtea
Senior Member
 
bigtea's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Posts: 1,639
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
It's all relative...if I see anyone on a Scat or Fuji (not listed) I classify them as someone who is enjoying the sport while pursuing recreation and fitness.

If I see someone on a Colnago I classify them as someone who has more money than me.

If I see someone on a Pinarello I classify them as someone worth overtaking to prove that their $10,000 bike isn't 3 times better than my $3300 bike.

If I see someone on a Cannonadale, Cervelo, Giant, Felt, Specialized, or Trek I classify them as customers of an LBS who liked the sales person.

If I see someone on a Bianchi or Look I wonder where they bought their bikes and why.

None of the above are Freds. Fred is not determined by a bike brand. Fred is determined by the use of a Rapha woolen cap instead of a helmet.
bigtea is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 03:21 PM
  #58  
VA_Esquire
Senior Member
 
VA_Esquire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Hampton, VA
Posts: 2,364
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
So when is Cervelo going to come out with a PCad limited edition Cervelo? funky wiring and everything.
VA_Esquire is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 03:28 PM
  #59  
Edsplace
Senior Member
 
Edsplace's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Eastern Sierra, CA
Posts: 50

Bikes: '06 Specialized Tarmac - Compact/Ultegra

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Got any pictures of Fred?
Edsplace is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 03:35 PM
  #60  
lbear
just going for a ride...
 
lbear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Posts: 584

Bikes: LeMond Sarthe, OCR A1, OCR 2, Cypress DX

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
We need a pool to "Define Fred"!!

Wikiipedia has my definition, More money then skill

"Recently, particularly in the US, a Fred is more often somebody with higher quality and more expensive gear than his or her talent would warrant. For example, a Fred could be guy with little cycling experience who watches the highlights of a few Tour de France stages, then goes to a bike store and buys a Trek carbon fiber Madone in Team Discovery colors, along with Team Discovery shorts and jersey, and then rides it on a cycling path at 15 mph (25 km/h)."

Earn your Cervelo don't just buy it.
lbear is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 03:37 PM
  #61  
big john
Senior Member
 
big john's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 12,098
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 248 Post(s)
Liked 11 Times in 10 Posts
We need a BF Glossary of Terms.
big john is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 03:42 PM
  #62  
Barese Rider
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: central jersey coast
Posts: 764

Bikes: 2008 Cervelo RS, 2004Trek 2100,1985 Nishike Prestige

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by big john View Post
We need a BF Glossary of Terms.
Agreed. Starting with the defintions of poseur and Fred.
Barese Rider is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 03:46 PM
  #63  
joe_5700
CAT4
 
joe_5700's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
Posts: 1,681

Bikes: 2009 Cervélo S1, 2009 Felt F75, 2010 Cannondale Synapse Carbon 5, 2011 Cannondale CAADx, 2011 Specialized Transition Elite

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by lbear View Post
We need a pool to "Define Fred"!!

Wikiipedia has my definition, More money then skill

"Recently, particularly in the US, a Fred is more often somebody with higher quality and more expensive gear than his or her talent would warrant. For example, a Fred could be guy with little cycling experience who watches the highlights of a few Tour de France stages, then goes to a bike store and buys a Trek carbon fiber Madone in Team Discovery colors, along with Team Discovery shorts and jersey, and then rides it on a cycling path at 15 mph (25 km/h)."

Earn your Cervelo don't just buy it.
A few years ago I spotted a guy who was in his late 50's and very out of shape on a Trek Madone I believe with the full Discovery Channel get up a block away from an LBS. It looked like he was on his first ride with his new bike and cycling clothes. I wish I had snapped a picture because this was a Fred by the Wikipedia definition.

I guess I am a Fred too as one poster described how they start off on a front suspension hybrid before graduating to a road bike.
joe_5700 is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 03:48 PM
  #64  
dauphin
Senior Member
 
dauphin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: California
Posts: 2,992
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
earn that twinkie...don't just buy it
__________________
dauphin is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 03:53 PM
  #65  
TRaffic Jammer
Dances With Cars
 
TRaffic Jammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Toronto, Canada
Posts: 10,527

Bikes: TBL Onyx Pro(ss converted), Pake SS (starting to look kinda pimped)

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
hmmm with riders aging, we enter the realm of actual fredness vs. perceptual fredness. Turns out sometimes the old guy with the gut on a high end road bike just may have been a former Tour rider. Why not just ride and be done with it all?
TRaffic Jammer is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 03:55 PM
  #66  
probe1957
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Central IL
Posts: 350

Bikes: 1987 Nishiki Altron 7000, 1991 Trek 520, 2008 Trek 7100

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ptle View Post
Trek, because of Lance....

I was riding up a hill behind a guy on a Trek today. He couldn't keep a straight line and was weaving all over the road. He was also going really slow and I was afraid to pass him because he was biking so unsafely.
Were you in Illinois?
probe1957 is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 03:59 PM
  #67  
probe1957
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Central IL
Posts: 350

Bikes: 1987 Nishiki Altron 7000, 1991 Trek 520, 2008 Trek 7100

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by caloso View Post
The winning brand is correct, but the model isn't what you think it is. A classic Fred is on a 520, not a Madone.

(A 520 with full fenders, rack, 3 or 4 blinkies, an Airzound, Brooks saddle, and about 100k miles on the odometer.)
I always assumed I am a Fred, now I have confirmation.
probe1957 is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 04:05 PM
  #68  
lbear
just going for a ride...
 
lbear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hillsboro, Oregon
Posts: 584

Bikes: LeMond Sarthe, OCR A1, OCR 2, Cypress DX

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by big john View Post
We need a BF Glossary of Terms.
We need to define "Fred" and create a BF Standard (BFS) for that and other terms. ie "Fast" "Bombproof" "Average Speed"
lbear is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 04:08 PM
  #69  
dauphin
Senior Member
 
dauphin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: California
Posts: 2,992
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by lbear View Post
We need to define "Fred" and create a BF Standard (BFS) for that and other terms. ie "Fast" "Bombproof" "Average Speed"
I nominate you to do that research and report back here in one week with a complete list.
__________________
dauphin is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 07:03 PM
  #70  
Tsuru
Bromptoneer
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 2,942

Bikes: Brompton S2L

Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I'm thinking young fredsters (hipsters gone fred-like roadies) go Bianchi. Got a few at work.
Tsuru is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 07:09 PM
  #71  
Hot Potato
Senior Member
 
Hot Potato's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Western Chicagoland
Posts: 1,821
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I didn't vote or read any of the posts because WalMart was not one of the choices.
Hot Potato is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 07:22 PM
  #72  
RichinPeoria
175mm crank of love
 
RichinPeoria's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,387
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Cervelo whah whah whaaahhh
RichinPeoria is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 07:22 PM
  #73  
mzeffex 
Senior Member
 
mzeffex's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,456

Bikes: Something Canadian, something Italian, something American, and something German

Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 46 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts
How dare you people nominate Giant >:[
__________________
Originally Posted by rjones28 View Post
Are they talking about spectators feeding the cyclists? You know, like don't feed the bears?
mzeffex is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 07:30 PM
  #74  
Doohickie 
You gonna eat that?
 
Doohickie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Fort Worth, Texas Church of Hopeful Uncertainty
Posts: 14,682

Bikes: 1966 Raleigh DL-1 Tourist, 1973 Schwinn Varsity, 1983 Raleigh Marathon, 1994 Nishiki Sport XRS

Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 140 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by big john View Post
So now I find out that I'm not a man because I put my bike in my car. What if it's far, then would it be O.K.? If I drive 83 miles to do a 114 mile ride with 12,000 feet of climbing, am I less of a man?
Where can I get a copy of the rule book?
Originally Posted by DataJunkie View Post
I believe Doohickie is saying that the rules for being a poseur vary. That is just his version.
You give me more credit for subtlety than I am capable of, DJ... I was just trolling a troll thread. I just wanted to stir things up.

Originally Posted by bigtea View Post
It's all relative...if I see anyone on a Scat or Fuji (not listed) I classify them as someone who is enjoying the sport while pursuing recreation and fitness.

If I see someone on a Colnago I classify them as someone who has more money than me.

If I see someone on a Pinarello I classify them as someone worth overtaking to prove that their $10,000 bike isn't 3 times better than my $3300 bike.

If I see someone on a Cannonadale, Cervelo, Giant, Felt, Specialized, or Trek I classify them as customers of an LBS who liked the sales person.

If I see someone on a Bianchi or Look I wonder where they bought their bikes and why.

None of the above are Freds. Fred is not determined by a bike brand. Fred is determined by the use of a Rapha woolen cap instead of a helmet.
Why classify them at all? I see someone on a bike and I see... someone on a bike.

Originally Posted by TRaffic Jammer View Post
hmmm with riders aging, we enter the realm of actual fredness vs. perceptual fredness. Turns out sometimes the old guy with the gut on a high end road bike just may have been a former Tour rider. Why not just ride and be done with it all?
What HE said!
__________________
I stop for people / whose right of way I honor / but not for no one.


Originally Posted by bragi "However, it's never a good idea to overgeneralize."
Doohickie is offline  
Old 11-12-09, 07:50 PM
  #75  
roadiejorge 
stole your bike
 
roadiejorge's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: North Bergen, NJ
Posts: 6,902

Bikes: Orbea Orca, Ridley Compact

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4175 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
__________________
I like pie
roadiejorge is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.