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Old 11-15-09, 08:11 AM
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Power Meter (iBike Pro)

Dear all... I've been looking around for improving my performance and it seems the power meter is something I can test out, its really expensive at least for me but i found a "decent" used one? Its the iBike Pro Generation 1...there is already a Generation 3 but thats out of my budget.

I'm just wondering if anybody knows the difference between Gen 1 and 3...is it less accurate before? (they have firmware but I didn't see any for Gen 1) or maybe the power meter is more advance now? I looked everywhere for a comparison but had no luck...I'm not sure if its because nobody likes it or the fact that its not accurate at all. Please let me know if you had some experience with this!

Thank you in advance!
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Buddy got the pro, looked at upgrading it ($ouch). Had lots of trouble calibrating it, can't use it inside and wind causes problems. He'll likely be selling it soon on ebay and getting a PowerTap.
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it's not really a powermeter, it's an anemometer with some firmware.
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ok, thanks for the replies, im assuming i shouldnt waste money money on this? any suggestions on which power meter i should get as a entry level (under $500 if thats possible)...i want to avoid the powertap only because i have to replace my hub... and its over my budget...something easy to hook up like a speedometer ....thanks again!
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You can probably find a used powertap for $500 or under. Keep an eye out on eBay or Craigslist for an older wired model. I got a new one (comp hub, kinlin 300 rim) built by psimet for $735 including shipping and it's been working great.
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I'd wait for the MetriGear Vector power meter, will cost around $900 to $1K.

https://www.metrigear.com/products/
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Originally Posted by hkboy313
ok, thanks for the replies, im assuming i shouldnt waste money money on this?
Correct.
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Originally Posted by LorenzoNF
You can probably find a used powertap for $500 or under. Keep an eye out on eBay or Craigslist for an older wired model. I got a new one (comp hub, kinlin 300 rim) built by psimet for $735 including shipping and it's been working great.
Correct.
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Originally Posted by Blade-Runner
I'd wait for the MetriGear Vector power meter, will cost around $900 to $1K.

https://www.metrigear.com/products/
Vaporware.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Vaporware.
Why do you keep saying that? They have a working prototype... and it isn't even supposed to have been released yet? Its like saying the 2012 Camry is "vaporware" or something.
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Originally Posted by jbhowat
Why do you keep saying that? They have a working prototype... and it isn't even supposed to have been released yet? Its like saying the 2012 Camry is "vaporware" or something.
Get a grip.

What part of 'you can't have it today' is elusive for you? If you can't have it right now this product is about as real for you or me as Tinkerbell's friggin Pixie Dust. If you can't walk into a store, give them your Amex card and buy it TODAY it is utter, total, complete, screaming, unmitigated friggin VAPORWARE.

Don't get me going on this topic kid.
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All that being said it does look rather nifty. How Vector will hold up in the real world remains to be seen. That's a dicey spot for fragile electronics gear (not quite as protected as a BB or the internals of a wheel hub).

Advantages: light, you can use any wheel set and it looks like it's easy to move from bike to bike.

On the other hand, it's not cheap (comparable in price to Ptap) and it is unproven. It's light but it is really not all that much lighter than a Ptap SL (which is about 200 grams heavier than a non-Ptap hub, or about 100 grams heavier than the Vector).

Will they really deliver a reliable product by Q1 of 2010? Don't hold your breath, and we can all believe it when we see it.
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And yes, the '2012 Camry' is also complete vaporware. I'd say you have as much chance of driving a 2012 Camry in 2010 as George Jetson's Space Car.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
And yes, the '2012 Camry' is also complete vaporware. I'd say you have as much chance of driving a 2012 Camry in 2010 as George Jetson's Space Car.


Isn't the world supposed to end in 2012 or something**********




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Originally Posted by patentcad
Get a grip.

What part of 'you can't have it today' is elusive for you? If you can't have it right now this product is about as real for you or me as Tinkerbell's friggin Pixie Dust. If you can't walk into a store, give them your Amex card and buy it TODAY it is utter, total, complete, screaming, unmitigated friggin VAPORWARE.

Don't get me going on this topic kid.
or what? The guy has an opinion, he is free to state it. Your bully attitude sucks. Some of us are not impressed..... and I could care less your response back.
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Originally Posted by jdgreen
or what? The guy has an opinion, he is free to state it. Your bully attitude sucks. Some of us are not impressed..... and I could care less your response back.
why doesn't anyone say this correctly anymore? Just think about what you're saying, it's obvious it doesn't make any sense.
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Originally Posted by jdgreen
or what? The guy has an opinion, he is free to state it. Your bully attitude sucks. Some of us are not impressed..... and I could care less your response back.
Does that mean you won't come to the Mt. Doom BBQ?
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By the way, eff that guy's stupid opinion. If the idiots here want to buy vaporware, let 'em try.
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Originally Posted by Flatballer
why doesn't anyone say this correctly anymore? Just think about what you're saying, it's obvious it doesn't make any sense.
They say it irregardless of what they should of said
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Originally Posted by jdgreen
or what? The guy has an opinion, he is free to state it. Your bully attitude sucks. Some of us are not impressed..... and I could care less your response back.
Pssst ... It's just pcad .... he always talks like that ....
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Get a grip.

What part of 'you can't have it today' is elusive for you? If you can't have it right now this product is about as real for you or me as Tinkerbell's friggin Pixie Dust. If you can't walk into a store, give them your Amex card and buy it TODAY it is utter, total, complete, screaming, unmitigated friggin VAPORWARE.

Don't get me going on this topic kid.
You just don't know what vaporware means, I see.

"Vaporware is a term used to describe a product, usually software, that has been announced by a developer during or before its development, if there is significant doubt whether the product will actually be released. The term is usually applied to products which fail to emerge after having well-exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product, or when the release date is delayed repeatedly without adequate evidence of specific unforeseen hurdles that cause these delays."

That wasn't hard... I don't see evidence to doubt that the product will actually be released. I don't think they've ever pushed back their timeline since they announced Q1 2010.

Now, might the Vector pedals actually become vaporware, maybe - I'll give them until mid-summer 2010 though before I give up and take my money elsewhere.
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i bet pcad doesn't have speedplays... that's why he's hating on them.. in all reality.. he does have a point... if you can't buy it... what's the point talking about it... it's not like this is an upgrade to a current version...
that being said..i'm in the "market" for a power meter as well.. but i'm going to wait a few months and see if this does turn out to be what they claim.. if it is.. it will make my wheel decisions much easier...
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Originally Posted by jbhowat
You just don't know what vaporware means, I see.

"Vaporware is a term used to describe a product, usually software, that has been announced by a developer during or before its development, if there is significant doubt whether the product will actually be released. The term is usually applied to products which fail to emerge after having well-exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product, or when the release date is delayed repeatedly without adequate evidence of specific unforeseen hurdles that cause these delays."

That wasn't hard... I don't see evidence to doubt that the product will actually be released. I don't think they've ever pushed back their timeline since they announced Q1 2010.

Now, might the Vector pedals actually become vaporware, maybe - I'll give them until mid-summer 2010 though before I give up and take my money elsewhere.
You have your definition of vaporware, I have mine. Mine is correct.

Bear in mind that the silly drivel you cite was probably foisted on the world by the same Silicon Valley Dbags who are the Evil Masters of Vaporware.
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By the way, I rode Speedplays for 10 years. I could go back to them for a Power Meter like that, you only need one pair of shoes dedicated to them and they are easy enough to swap out.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
You have your definition of vaporware, I have mine. Mine is correct.

Bear in mind that the silly drivel you cite was probably foisted on the world by the same Silicon Valley Dbags who are the Evil Masters of Vaporware.

I'm pretty sure "vaporware" is a "silicon valley" term. What is your definition then, something you can't buy? Most people just call that not available.

The proposed release date is not very far away, close enough that if someone is considering buying a powermeter, they should probably wait to see if the Vectors pan out to be "vaporware" or not. Its entirely possible that people shopping for a powermeter now might not be dropping any money until the vectors are already available, it would be silly to simply write them off if you might not be purchasing for 3-4 months.

It would nice if, when someone is asking about powermeter options (and thus might be purchasing 3 months from now, or at least willing to wait that long), people could recommend they look into the Vector system without some mouth-breather making a one, incorrectly used word reply that writes off what could end up being the best value *BY FAR* of any of the real powermeters out there.
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