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Old 11-19-09, 05:50 PM
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2010 Scott CR1 - looks sweet!!

Hey guys haven't seen anything posted on the newly "redesigned" CR1 so thought I'd start one. I've been looking to upgrade from a Spec Allez and was getting ready to pull the trigger on a new 2010 Spec Roubaix but a friend suggested I take a look at the new CR1 before I decided. Glad I did. On paper the Scott CR1 Elite looks almost too good to be true. MSRP is $2799..can buy for $2500 dollar range. Looks to be a bad@#$ rig for that kind of $.

Elite package:
- full carbon frame (of course)
- SRAM Rival all the way
- Mavic Kysrium Elite wheels
- few other nice pieces - Ultegra chain, for example

To get a Roubaix comparable in specs I'd have to get the Expert for around $3300 and still not sure it's spec'd out as nice as the Scott. I really like the ride of the Roubaix and I haven't ridden the CR1 yet...but I'm int he process of locating one to try out. The LBS is hoping to have a few in pretty soon that I can ride. I gotta give this bike a hard look before I buy the Roubaix.

Also...the 2010 "newly redesigned CR1" has a replaceable derailleur hanger according to Scott and the local dealer. That's good news for me as I have a tendency to be a little rough on my toys.

Any CR1 owners out there that would like to share their experiences with their bike and Scott in general. I've heard their warranty/customer service is pretty good.

Anyone ridden the new 2010 CR1? Wonder how it will ride compared to the Roubaix.

Thanks...
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When I had a Scoot hookup, I looked at their '09 lineup and never fell in love with anything. By the time I got around to buying a bike, all I could afford was a used Roubaix anyhow, but I looked back at the '10 Scott models and I think they all look great. The '10 Giants are massively improved over the '09 models as well.
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Originally Posted by RWD9305

Also...the 2010 "newly redesigned CR1" has a replaceable derailleur hanger according to Scott and the local dealer. That's good news for me as I have a tendency to be a little rough on my toys.
Also of note, as has been mentioned in lots of Scott threads, you can use a "break off" bolt on the non-replaceable hanger. But also, did they say it was a replaceable hanger or a "replaceable" hanger? From what I've read, Scott can remove and replace the "non-replaceable" hanger. Not sure if that's a straight warranty deal or if there is a fee.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
Also of note, as has been mentioned in lots of Scott threads, you can use a "break off" bolt on the non-replaceable hanger. But also, did they say it was a replaceable hanger or a "replaceable" hanger? From what I've read, Scott can remove and replace the "non-replaceable" hanger. Not sure if that's a straight warranty deal or if there is a fee.
Had a 2007 CR1 and it was a sweet ride. Very stiff and great power transfer. It's aggressive but yet still quite comfortable; not Roubaix comfortable, but still pretty good for a bike with racing ambition and pedigree. I think all the talk about replaceable hanger is a bit overstated... Really, how often or the likelihood of you breaking a rear hanger even, being rough to the bike or even if you are racing? I have a lot of friends who both ride and race with CR1s for several years. So far, exactly one had broke the rear hanger and had to have the frame replaced, but he also broke the fork and rear triangle at the same time, and it was a pretty big crash.

Go ahead and get the CR1, you won't be disappointed. It's by far the best value on the market, I believe.

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Originally Posted by dalava
Had a 2007 CR1 and it was a sweet ride. Very stiff and great power transfer. It's aggressive but yet still quite comfortable; not Roubaix comfortable, but still pretty good for a bike with racing ambition and pedigree. I think all the talk about replaceable hanger is a bit overstated... Really, how often or the likelihood of you breaking a rear hanger even, being rough to the bike or even if you are racing? I have a lot of friends who both ride and race with CR1s for several years. So far, exactly one had broke the rear hanger and had to have the frame replaced, but he also broke the fork and rear triangle at the same time, and it was a pretty big crash.

Go ahead and get the CR1, you won't be disappointed. It's by far the best value on the market, I believe.
I have a 2008 CR1-Pro. Nice bike. It's stiff pedaling, but not stiff riding ... climbs well. Not the sexiest looking, but neither am I.

I crashed shortly after buying it (my first road bike crash in 20+ years of cycling) ... go figure. About the only damage was a bent derailleur hanger, which the shop was able to bend back (there is a special Park tool for that, BTW). Dunno if it's true, but the shop told me that it was also possible to put a new hanger in ... supposedly done all the time.
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Originally Posted by WalksOn2Wheels
Also of note, as has been mentioned in lots of Scott threads, you can use a "break off" bolt on the non-replaceable hanger. But also, did they say it was a replaceable hanger or a "replaceable" hanger? From what I've read, Scott can remove and replace the "non-replaceable" hanger. Not sure if that's a straight warranty deal or if there is a fee.
I know about a dozen people with CR1's (2006 to current model). Only 1 has managed to bend a hanger - he had to pay to have it replaced by Scott.

Edit: Oh - I love mine and would buy another one if something happened to it!
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The reviews I've seen liken more toward the Roubaix than the old race-oriented CR1. It's got a taller headtube & longer wheelbase, ala the Roubaix.
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Let's face it. It's no Cervelo.
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Just some Canadian crap anyway
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you must be joking.

You start a thread about how a bike "looks sweet!!" and then you don't include pictures? WTF were you thinking?
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The reviews I've seen liken more toward the Roubaix than the old race-oriented CR1. It's got a taller headtube & longer wheelbase, ala the Roubaix.
That's what I've read too...which is what I like about it. The more upright the better for me...got a really f'ed up back. Looking forward to riding one.
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I'm head over heels in love with my 2009 cr1, I bought the comp (lowest end offering) about 2 weeks ago, because I'm going to replace everything but the frame however can't afford to do it all at once. Like other have said the frame has is a nice compromise of stiffness and comfort, with the equilibrium laying slightly on the stiffness side. According to this months Bicycling magazine the 2010 has been toned down a notch to increase the comfort, which would be a deal breaker for someone like my self who has RBS (rickey bobby syndrome- I constantly wanna go fast).

best part about owning the bike is that you wouldn't be a d0uche bag on a cervelo.

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The CR1 is on my short list too. Certainly seems like a good value.
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Originally Posted by patentcad
Let's face it. It's no Cervelo.
No CR1 for you, poser!
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I've been riding my '08 cr1 team close to 2000 miles now. I've tried a couple of other bikes on long rides (Felt F-something and Jamis Satellite I think) but none of them seemed as versatile and responsive as the cr1. The cr1 is just climbs better and is very sharp in keeping lines (any error is due to the operator: me!) and makes tight turns. I really like getting out of the saddle and darting off when the stop light turns green (makes me look like a pro!).
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Originally Posted by RWD9305
Any CR1 owners out there that would like to share their experiences with their bike and Scott in general. I've heard their warranty/customer service is pretty good.
Not what I've heard. My LBS dumped Scott like a hot potato when Scott stiffed them on frame # 3. Get this... Frame snapped on the owner at speed, and he went down hard. Scott got the frame and refused to warranty it... "because it's been wrecked"

All three instances were similar, bad damage, and Scott claimed misuse/accident. LBS dug into their pocket and made them good but dumped the entire line. Now they're stuck with just Pinarello and Parlee
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LBS here has nothing but praises for Scott. Who knows?
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I want to change my frame into something more plush. my Scott LBS is lauding the 2010 CR1 frame. My other Cervelo/ Felt LBS is pushing the Felt Z series frame. Go and figure!!
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Absolutely love my 09 CR1 Team. Made a few upgrades from stock, though.

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My 08 CR1-Pro has about 15k miles and still going strong, still enjoy riding it

Crashed it once taking a roundabout to fast in the rain. No damage other than some scuffing on the pedal and bar tape
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Originally Posted by RWD9305
Hey guys haven't seen anything posted on the newly "redesigned" CR1 so thought I'd start one. I've been looking to upgrade from a Spec Allez and was getting ready to pull the trigger on a new 2010 Spec Roubaix but a friend suggested I take a look at the new CR1 before I decided. Glad I did. On paper the Scott CR1 Elite looks almost too good to be true. MSRP is $2799..can buy for $2500 dollar range. Looks to be a bad@#$ rig for that kind of $.

Elite package:
- full carbon frame (of course)
- SRAM Rival all the way
- Mavic Kysrium Elite wheels
- few other nice pieces - Ultegra chain, for example

To get a Roubaix comparable in specs I'd have to get the Expert for around $3300 and still not sure it's spec'd out as nice as the Scott. I really like the ride of the Roubaix and I haven't ridden the CR1 yet...but I'm int he process of locating one to try out. The LBS is hoping to have a few in pretty soon that I can ride. I gotta give this bike a hard look before I buy the Roubaix.

Also...the 2010 "newly redesigned CR1" has a replaceable derailleur hanger according to Scott and the local dealer. That's good news for me as I have a tendency to be a little rough on my toys.

Any CR1 owners out there that would like to share their experiences with their bike and Scott in general. I've heard their warranty/customer service is pretty good.

Anyone ridden the new 2010 CR1? Wonder how it will ride compared to the Roubaix.

Thanks...
They only warranty the frame and fork for 5 years.

Specialized has a Lifetime warranty on theirs.
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I don't have any photos of my 2010 Scott CR1 Team yet, so pardon me for taking the easy way out with a link (but mine is identical as pictured):

https://www.scottusa.com/us_en/produc...45090/cr1_team

It's the second lowest equipage of the CR1, and was just under $2,000 out the door. (full 105, including brakes, Mavic Aksium wheels, weight for a medium is 17.5 lbs).

As stated above, Scott's frame warranty is 5 years, not life - although my LBS said the support was good, in their experience. (Their other brands include Bianchi, Colnago, Pinarello, Wilier, and Look.)

The 2010 CR1 is really a totally new design from the previous CR1. As others have said, it is somewhat toned down from the previous CR1, which was very race-oriented. Since the Addict now fills that role, the CR1 got a new frame that is intentionally designed to flex more vertically, and has a slightly taller head tube. In that sense it moved somewhat in the Roubaix direction. But I think in the end it is not nearly as far towards the "comfort" end of the spectrum. The 2010 CR1's headtube is only 20mm more than the same size Addict, and is less tall than the "Performance Fit" Madone versions. So it is more comfort oriented than the Addict, and last year's CR1, but not "softened" by all that much.

(The seat stays of the new CR1 are very thin when viewed from the side, but are quite wide/thick when viewed from the rear. So it stayed pretty stiff laterally).

There is also some weight difference between the top-end CR1 (SL model), and the other CR1's - a bit higher quality carbon fiber is used in the SL version. Whereas the top-end CR1 frame is only 860g or so, the other versions are maybe 980g (still pretty light). And all of them have such niceties as carbon drop-outs, carbon cable stops, and (in Shimano-equipped versions only) an integrated BB with Dura-Ace bearing cups. Oh, and the 2010 CR1 frame DOES have a replaceble RD hanger....

I love my bike so far. But I'm just a recreational rider, and it is arguably already more bike than I can really utilize.... I do think it is a very good value - comparable to some other brands that run several hundred more.

Sorry about the sales plug - I couldn't help it!

(BTW, on the same page as my photo link, there are some reviews and other info, for those who are interested.)

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I also have a 2010 Scott CR1 Team. I wanted to be somewhere around $2000 or under and thought this bike offered the most bang for the buck taking into consideration what I wanted and how I use the bike. So far I'm real happy.

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Originally Posted by Lucky07
The reviews I've seen liken more toward the Roubaix than the old race-oriented CR1. It's got a taller headtube & longer wheelbase, ala the Roubaix.
Did this just change for '10, or was it last year? I had always admired the old CR1's superstiff racy geometry, and I would be less interested in a frame with a tall headtube. When I first started reading this, I thought this could give the CAAD 9 I want to buy myself a run for its money (since its only a little more money than how I planned on setting the Cannondale up), but not if it's some sort of newer mellower CR1.

I want the brutal one.

[And, after further reading, stepping up to Addict race geometry means stepping down to 105 and Aksiums. Oh well, Scott is crossed off the list. Really, what would be so bad about an Addict with Rival -- a CR1 Elite with an Addict frame?]

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