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Old 12-19-09, 09:26 AM
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Titanium/Aluminum frame help

I'm looking for a decent Titanium or Aluminum frame (set). I currently have a PB Scattante Carbon frame with Dura Ace 7900 gruppo, and I would like to upgrade the frame.

I searched on line, and I just couldn't find one but carbon. I don't wanna spend more than $2,000, slightly used is probably ok.

Brand recommendations, help...

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Here's my bike btw...

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Originally Posted by kyakdiver
why?
Well, the reason why is, when I got home last night after a 17 mile ride, I discovered a cracked in the right-side chainstays. Probably because I fell off the bike a couple times (clipless pedals noob), but they were not really hard at all. Or maybe the carbon frame was just cheaply made.

My bike is only 3 weeks old, hopefully it's covered under warranty. But, I would like to look on non-carbon frames.

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Originally Posted by DuraAce
Well, the reason why is, when I got home last night after a 17 mile ride, I discovered a cracked in the right-side chainstays. Probably because I fell off the bike a couple times (clipless pedals noob), but they were not really hard at all. Or maybe the carbon frame was just cheaply made.

My bike is only 3 weeks old, hopefully it's covered under warranty. But, I would like to look on non-carbon frames.



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Wow.... That sucks! Sorry to hear about that. They do have a nice looking Lynskey on the site. Big bucks though.
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Big price differences between aluminum and ti. You can get new aluminum for a few hundred bucks from Nashbar and really nice aluminum from Cannondale for way under your range. New Ti? Maybe starting around a grand. It will go up fast from there.
eBay generally has a nice selection of used Litespeeds.
I'm not into the CF paranoia but I really like my Litespeed Ultimate.
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Originally Posted by DuraAce
Well, the reason why is, when I got home last night after a 17 mile ride, I discovered a cracked in the right-side chainstays. Probably because I fell off the bike a couple times (clipless pedals noob), but they were not really hard at all. Or maybe the carbon frame was just cheaply made.

My bike is only 3 weeks old, hopefully it's covered under warranty. But, I would like to look on non-carbon frames.

Thanks
Take it back to Performance. They'll replace it for you.
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check out excel sports. Picked up a Cervelo close out frame from them this week.
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Originally Posted by DuraAce
Well, the reason why is, when I got home last night after a 17 mile ride, I discovered a cracked in the right-side chainstays. Probably because I fell off the bike a couple times (clipless pedals noob), but they were not really hard at all. Or maybe the carbon frame was just cheaply made.
Or maybe you've cracked the clearcoat and not the carbon fibers themselves? Hard to imagine that you could crack even a cheap, generic carbon frame from just a couple of tip-overs...
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as mentioned earlier, take it to Performance. They would rather just give you a new one than talk to you
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Originally Posted by sstorkel
Or maybe you've cracked the clearcoat and not the carbon fibers themselves? Hard to imagine that you could crack even a cheap, generic carbon frame from just a couple of tip-overs...
I think you're right! I will take it to the store and have them look at it.
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Originally Posted by saintx
check out excel sports. Picked up a Cervelo close out frame from them this week.
WOW, they have great deals on frames!! Thanks a lot.
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Originally Posted by DuraAce
I searched on line, and I just couldn't find one but carbon. I don't wanna spend more than $2,000, slightly used is probably ok.
If you want Ti for under $2000.00

Take a look at the DEAN El Vado Frame for $1,850.00
https://www.deanbikes.com/road/el%20vado/elvado.htm

or the Habanero Cycles
https://www.habcycles.com/
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I have the same bike, I believe it to be a very good frame. Since all carbon frames have a low modulus (I think thats the right term) they are prone to fractures. I am very carefull of the blows my bike may take. I am thinking about titanium too. Saw a Motebecane on Bikesdirect.com that seems pretty nice and I like the price too. I will have to work on the wife for a while before even think about it.
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Carbon doesn't really have that low of a modulus. There are 3 grades of carbon based on how and what the fibers are made of, 33 Msi, 42 Msi and 52-55 Msi. Msi means millions of pounds per inch squared. For comparison Al is 10 Msi and structural steel is 30 Msi. High mod carbon is used to make F1 race car hulls and armor plating for military apps. That said is very pricey so I believe most bikes are made from the low mod stuff.
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I am still trying to understand the facts about carbon fiber as it applies to bicycle frames, my Scattante CFR has an Carbon SL6 on the frame. I have googled it but have not found any explanation. I would like to find a good article comparing titanium and carbon fiber.
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