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Old 12-29-09, 03:51 PM
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New Bike Purchase Question...

Looking to purchase a new bike. Current riding a 15 year old Ross Adventure road bike that has seen better days.

The two bikes I'm considering:

A 2009 Scott CR1 Team (Shimano 105 gruppo) that my LBS offered for $2100. Or they said they have a 2008 SRAM Force gruppo less the shifters (they'd have to buy new ones) that they offered to swap the 105s for $2300. Would it be ok to mix the 2010 Force shifters with the 2008 Force gruppo? I'm not sure if those prices included the 10% closeout deal which would bring the prices of the two configurations down to $1890 and $2080 respectively, but again I'm not sure about this.

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A 2010 Cannondale CAAD9 4 (SRAM Rival gruppo) that my LBS offered for $1800. I also found this bike at another store in Connecticut (I live in NYC) for $100 less at a reputable bike store up there. I'm not so crazy about the wheelset (Shimano RS10) and would like to upgrade to something a bit nicer (Mavic Kysirum?) which would obviously add some money to the bottom line. The question with this bike is whether it is better to save a few bucks on the purchase by buying at a store not so close to home, or have the bike store close by the house where I can take the bike for free servicing for life?


That's the current short list. Thoughts?
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Both great rides which one fits you better? and it also depends on if you are looking for Carbon frame or Aluminum since they are both different.
I also considered a Scott but ended up building a Pedal Force RS2 got a lot more for the money in the end and its one nice frame and built up to 14 lb.
You can get a 16 lb Utegra group for the same price as the Scott at $2200 or a 15.4 lb Sram Rival group for $2100 something to consider.
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Both great rides which one fits you better? and it also depends on if you are looking for Carbon frame or Aluminum since they are both different.
I also considered a Scott but ended up building a Pedal Force RS2 got a lot more for the money in the end and its one nice frame and built up to 14 lb.
You can get a 16 lb Utegra group for the same price as the Scott at $2200 or a 15.4 lb Sram Rival group for $2100 something to consider.

Thanks for your response!

My biggest concern about buying a bike is to make sure it fits properly, and I think that the composition of the frame (aluminum, carbon or a mix) is almost secondary in my mind. Anything that I buy will be ten times better than what I'm riding right now. So I really prefer to buy a an LBS rather than online. Especially since this is my first real road bike. The question is more about whether I should buy at a local shop around the corner or a local shop 2 hours away. Is the free maintenance for life at the local shop around the corner worth spending a few more bucks than forgoing that service to save a few by buying in Connecticut.
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Local is the way to go.
Maintenance, small adjustments, questions, warranty problems all would be very easy to take care of.
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Originally Posted by akonikoff View Post
Thanks for your response!

My biggest concern about buying a bike is to make sure it fits properly, and I think that the composition of the frame (aluminum, carbon or a mix) is almost secondary in my mind. Anything that I buy will be ten times better than what I'm riding right now. So I really prefer to buy a an LBS rather than online. Especially since this is my first real road bike. The question is more about whether I should buy at a local shop around the corner or a local shop 2 hours away. Is the free maintenance for life at the local shop around the corner worth spending a few more bucks than forgoing that service to save a few by buying in Connecticut.
I say in your case (if it were me) yes it is since this is your first road bike and unless you know how to work on it this is always worth something! If it were me and my first road bike I might lean towards the Cannondale CAAD9 with its aluminum frame less to worry about as far as damage is concerned.
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I say in your case (if it were me) yes it is since this is your first road bike and unless you know how to work on it this is always worth something! If it were me and my first road bike I might lean towards the Cannondale CAAD9 with its aluminum frame less to worry about as far as damage is concerned.

Would the Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheelset be a good upgrade to the stock Shimano RS10s the CAAD9 4 comes with?
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Originally Posted by akonikoff View Post
Would the Mavic Ksyrium Elite wheelset be a good upgrade to the stock Shimano RS10s the CAAD9 4 comes with?
I've never ridden the RS10s, but the Ksyrium Elites (assuming they are the 2009/2010 model w/ the inter spoke milling technique) are lighter by about 300g and are very stiff and durable. Aerodynamics are not very good on the Ksyrium's but as training wheels they are great. I love my Ksyrium's. IMO they are a huge step up from the RS10s. The RS10s would be more comparable to Mavic Aksium wheels.
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Cannondale's fit me great, so I am a big fan. But the question you need to answer is which do you feel more comfortable riding? Also, if you go to the bike shop in Connecticut, will it be difficult to get up there for repairs and other issues? And which shop did you like dealing with better?

Both are excellent frames and the component packages are solid. I prefer Sram to Shimano, but 105 is fine and mixing 2010 and 2008 Force should not be a problem.

As for the wheels on the Cannondale, Kysrium Elite's would be a fine upgrade option, but there are several less expensive options out there (such as Easton EA70 or EA90 on sale, Williams System 30 and Neuvations) that should be just as reliable as the Elites.
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+1 on the wheel upgrade....
I've never ridden the RS10's, but I imagine there similar to the stock R561s that came on my 07 Caad9 which only get used on winter rides and on the stationary trainer.
my 2cents, other's may argue.
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Yes as others have mentioned the upgrade from RS10 to Kysrium Elite's is a good wheel upgrade but with that said, depending on what this upgrade is going to cost you also.
You may be better off getting the bike with the RS10 and then do some research for some of the other great wheels out their, you will find many better wheels that are light, arrow and at a great price. Not to mention you'll end up with an extra set of wheels as a backup and you will have more time to think it out as to what you really want don't rush it just because!.... thats never a good thing as far as I'm concerned.
My opinion anyways I'm never one to rush into things.
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^^^Good point!
OP, go with the RS10s and then for about $1200 upgrade to these:


So what if they cost as much as the bike, you NEED these.
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i would be remised if i didnt suggest the bike that i am currently drooling and saving for as it looks like we are both in the same price range.

Cervelo S1..many shops are selling them over here on sale for $1850 with the Ultegra. that leaves room to upgrade the wheels adn get a power tap (my intentions PSIMET.COM for those).
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I own both a cr1 and a caad9. I enjoy riding my cr1 a lot more. The ride is much more forgiving, but the bike is still sitff where it needs to be. I have never ridden sram, but I do have a 105 group on my caad9 and it shifts great.
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So far I've only been able to test ride the 2009 Scott CR1. I almost threw myself off the thing because I'm so used to working for every pedal stroke. I came back to the store giggling like a little school girl. The LBS doesn't have any 2010 CAAD9s in stock yet. They are a small shop with not a lot of stock. I did get to look at the CAAD9 1 as one of the shop owners brought her bike up for me to look at, but it was a 48cm, so it was too small to jump on. They recently switched from racing on the CR1 to the CAAD9.

Sounds like I should just buy both bikes and also a set of really expensive wheels and I'll be all set to go.
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