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identifying a lemond road frame

Old 12-30-09, 06:38 PM
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identifying a lemond road frame

I have a bought a freshly painted by Lizart Lemond road frame. Previous owner didn't know the model although the serial # is as follows:

WTU2250601P

280 57 TB11311


Does anyone know what model this is? I'm pretty sure the "57" refers to the size (since it does measure out to be a 57cm frame)

Other hints would help my curiosity. Thanks!
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Old 12-30-09, 07:48 PM
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Well I do not know them by serial number, but how about a picture and we can start from there.

The first identifier will be obvious - is it aluminum, Ti, steel, spine, OCLV, AC/DC, etc...regular or compact geometry...
Then the shape of the frame will tell us more, and with some frame dimensions the geometry tables can be looked up in most cases to narrow it down further.

so pics?
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Old 01-03-10, 01:10 AM
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ok...here are some pics.


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All that I can say here is that you have picked up quite a unique frame set, or not. I am familiar with post-Trek-aquisition of this brand to a small extent. I think that this is pre-Trek. Note the pump peg. Note also the funky swaged seat tube. I don't know one way or another. Hopefully, some old-school Lemondian riders chime in. Good luck, I like the paint job.
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Old 01-04-10, 08:23 PM
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ohh...thanks for the clues. If i remember correctly, weren't most of the pre-trek bikes also made in the US?

Originally Posted by plasticmaam12 View Post
All that I can say here is that you have picked up quite a unique frame set, or not. I am familiar with post-Trek-aquisition of this brand to a small extent. I think that this is pre-Trek. Note the pump peg. Note also the funky swaged seat tube. I don't know one way or another. Hopefully, some old-school Lemondian riders chime in. Good luck, I like the paint job.
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Old 01-05-10, 04:53 AM
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I would say pre-Trek for sure however, I want to say all Trek products used to begin their model numbers with "WTU".
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Originally Posted by regisphilbin View Post
ohh...thanks for the clues. If i remember correctly, weren't most of the pre-trek bikes also made in the US?
Most Lemonds were still made in the US after the Trek aquisition.
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Old 01-05-10, 05:16 AM
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Some frames -- like my steel "GAN" frame -- came with internal cable routing, which will maybe help to eliminate some options.

Of course, I can't remember what year mine is (mid-90's?), and it's back in Maryland right now...
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90's TIG welded steel to me, Reynolds 853, as in a Lemond Zurich.

1999 Zurich


Another Zurich on eBay right now: https://cgi.ebay.com/Lemond-Zurich-St...01014001r13747

Early Lemonds were made by Roland Della Santa in Reno, by Scapin and imported by Ten Speed Drive Impors, and by the Billato Brothers in Italy. Yours is not one of these due to the WTU in the serial number
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Originally Posted by bbattle View Post
90's TIG welded steel to me, Reynolds 853, as in a Lemond Zurich.
Bingo - my thoughts too. The shape of the fork on it also resembles the Icon Air Rail found on Lemonds and Treks of that time. So yes, a post-Trek frame, made in USA by Trek in Waterloo, WI.

And for the pump peg comment - Lemonds came with pump pegs right up to the end. They just weren't on smaller sizes with insufficient room on the head tube.
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Originally Posted by teterider View Post
Bingo - my thoughts too. The shape of the fork on it also resembles the Icon Air Rail found on Lemonds and Treks of that time. So yes, a post-Trek frame, made in USA by Trek in Waterloo, WI.

And for the pump peg comment - Lemonds came with pump pegs right up to the end. They just weren't on smaller sizes with insufficient room on the head tube.
This is an '02 Zurich...
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...Lemond-rebuild
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I have some data points. I'll see if i other lemond owners can help by posting their serial #'s:

2002 Buenos Aires = WL########
2004 Zurich = WL175036#
2005 Zurich =
WL321636#
2005 Tourmalet = WL314868#

2005 Croix de Fer = WTU17017661#

???? Mine = WTU2250601P



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Old 01-05-10, 07:18 PM
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the 1999 zurich 49cm on ebay (linked above by bbattle) has the serial # of:

WTU2250699P

This is almost identical to mine! case solved?
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1993 Pre-Trek Lemond Frame (on ebay 280447120990) - Serial # 250152
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Old 01-06-10, 12:17 AM
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2000 Lemond Buenos Aires = WTU A029969 S
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Some of the early LeMonds had cool 72 degree seat tubes.

-Z
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2004 Maillot Jaune = WL 310567#
2005 Maillot Jaune = WL 321962#
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Old 01-27-10, 11:17 PM
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2002 Lemond Zurich - WL 16185xx
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2002 Lemond Zurich WL 16556xx
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Well on a casual glance it looks a lot like the frame on my 2000 Zurich. Yours seems to have the same Icon CF fork. My serial number is: WTU A02107XX:



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yep, definitely a zurich.

and whomever stripped that frame needs to be shot.
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Originally Posted by zazenzach View Post
yep, definitely a zurich.

and whomever stripped that frame needs to be shot.
uh oh, the paint is so soft on these I'm considering stripping mine and having it powder coated. Could care less about what it looks like, what matters to me is how it rides and protecting the frame from rust. Please don't shoot me!
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