possible to use 10s rear derailleur with 8s cassette?
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possible to use 10s rear derailleur with 8s cassette?
Hey Guys,
So I was shopping for a new rear derailleur for my 8 speed bike and noticed that Shimano 105 10-speed rear derailleur is said to be 9 and 10 speed compatible. But it's bigger brother, Ultegra SL, is showing 8/9/10 speed compatible?
Is this a typo or is it true? Or is there anyway I can get the shimano 105 10s rear derailleur to work with my 8s cassette?
Thanks for ur help.
So I was shopping for a new rear derailleur for my 8 speed bike and noticed that Shimano 105 10-speed rear derailleur is said to be 9 and 10 speed compatible. But it's bigger brother, Ultegra SL, is showing 8/9/10 speed compatible?
Is this a typo or is it true? Or is there anyway I can get the shimano 105 10s rear derailleur to work with my 8s cassette?
Thanks for ur help.
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It'll be shifty, but I take it that's what you're going for.
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Careful throwing stuff like that around....someone might think you're serious.....and if you are serious.....sorry but that would be incorrect.
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it is fine, just make sure you are using friction shifters.
if you are trying to use sis, and you get it calibrated, I think you will make the bike forums hall of fame.
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OP: Try the Bicycle Mechanics forum if you want fewer snarky replies.
The shifter determines how much cable to pull in or let out between shifts. It needs to match the cassette. (8speed to 8 speed). The derailleur will move correctly from cog to cog in accordance to the cable change commanded by the shifter. Be sure to adjust the RD limit screws so it aligns correctly at the largest and smallest cogs. Also ensure the derailleur has the capacity for the high-low spread your cassette has - e.g., the SS vs. GS derailleurs in the Shimano line.
The shifter determines how much cable to pull in or let out between shifts. It needs to match the cassette. (8speed to 8 speed). The derailleur will move correctly from cog to cog in accordance to the cable change commanded by the shifter. Be sure to adjust the RD limit screws so it aligns correctly at the largest and smallest cogs. Also ensure the derailleur has the capacity for the high-low spread your cassette has - e.g., the SS vs. GS derailleurs in the Shimano line.
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The OP mentions that a new RD is needed for his 8spd setup. Asked if a 10spd rd would work. The RD throw is the same on 8, 9 or 10spd Shimano RD's except for DA 8 spd 7600 and DA 7900. Throw being the ratio of movement of the shift lever to the distance traveled by the derail pulleys. The absolute width of the lateral movement is the same for an 8spd setup as a 10 speed setup. 10 just squeezes 2 more cogs into the same amount of space - reducing the spacing between cogs and requiring the use of a narrower chain. In essence then there is complete interchangeability between different RD versions as long as they have the same throw. 8spd, 9spd, and 10spd just become monikers.
Th OP can put the 10spd derail on and connect the cable, set the limit screws, and adjust the system using the same technique as if it was an "8spd" RD. it will then shift and perform just like it should. If there are any issues the OP can always change the chain out to a 10spd chain.....but why would you want to run a weaker chain?
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More than likely not the case, especially with a 105, but a 8 speed chain has an outside width of 7.1-7.2mm
A 9 speed chain is 6.8mm wide
A 10 speed chain is 6.2mm wide
If the RD was built with such crazy tolerances (less than 0.3mm from a chain), then you'd have a problem. BUT if someone designed a mass market RD to have at most 0.15mm on each side of a spinning chain... Thats thinner than a 29lb sheet of paper (fairly standard "heavyweight" office paper)
A 9 speed chain is 6.8mm wide
A 10 speed chain is 6.2mm wide
If the RD was built with such crazy tolerances (less than 0.3mm from a chain), then you'd have a problem. BUT if someone designed a mass market RD to have at most 0.15mm on each side of a spinning chain... Thats thinner than a 29lb sheet of paper (fairly standard "heavyweight" office paper)
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More than likely not the case, especially with a 105, but a 8 speed chain has an outside width of 7.1-7.2mm
A 9 speed chain is 6.8mm wide
A 10 speed chain is 6.2mm wide
If the RD was built with such crazy tolerances (less than 0.3mm from a chain), then you'd have a problem. BUT if someone designed a mass market RD to have at most 0.15mm on each side of a spinning chain... Thats thinner than a 29lb sheet of paper (fairly standard "heavyweight" office paper)
A 9 speed chain is 6.8mm wide
A 10 speed chain is 6.2mm wide
If the RD was built with such crazy tolerances (less than 0.3mm from a chain), then you'd have a problem. BUT if someone designed a mass market RD to have at most 0.15mm on each side of a spinning chain... Thats thinner than a 29lb sheet of paper (fairly standard "heavyweight" office paper)
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I have shimano 105 STI Shifters 8 speed with an 8 speed cassette and ultegra 6600 (10 speed) rear derailleur. My shifts are crisp and definitely smoother than the NOS 8 speed 105 R.D.
Go for it!
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I didn't know that made 105 8 speed STI levers are they not Shimano R500 STI levers?
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I must be really screwed using a 10-speed 105 dérailleur with quasi-vintage 7-speed and RSX brifter.
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thanks for the help guys, i can always count on bf
psimet,
you're saying there's a chance i need to change my 8 speed chain to 9 speed chain to avoid rubbing? is that correct?
psimet,
you're saying there's a chance i need to change my 8 speed chain to 9 speed chain to avoid rubbing? is that correct?
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It will work just fine. Set your hi and low limits as you normally would and your shifters will do the rest. As previously stated you may need a narrower chain. Lp
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