Miller2

Recommend me some new cables. Is there anything to these Nokon cables?

umd

I like them

jrobe

I buy the stock cables that my LBS carries (a few dollars) and just replace them a couple times a year. I quit buying more expensive cables. There is better places to spend money.

Miller2

Can you expand on that? Do they last longer than basic cables, slide smoother in the housing or what?

enjoi07

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enjoi07

a little research
https://www.competitivecyclist.com/za...UERY%3Dhousing

sounds..cool. i would go jagwire. especially with SRAM. but if you want to bling out go with nokon.

Crash716

I am going to try these out...i got a good deal on them and i run SRAM so...i heard they are great.

Yokozuna Reaction cables

https://www.competitivecyclist.com/ro...39.2279.0.html

Quel

You replace your cables multiple times a year?

caloso

I just get the Jagwire cables. They're great.

CrimsonKarter21

I highly recommend Yokozuna for Sram. It's amazing, it compeltely transforms the shift.
For Shimano, stick with Shimano cables, unless you want bling, then go Nokon. If you've got the 7900 or 6700, I'd recommend it because of the restrictive routing.

For Campy..... well, shouldn't you be debating about whether to call it farfalle or bowtie?

RParker

I agree if you have SRAM try the Yokozuna ! I use Jagwire on my 7800 and works great.

johnny99

I've been using Dura-Ace cables and housing for years and am happy with them. They are inexpensive and work great for me. I suppose the super-expensive stuff might be interesting if you want a fancy cable routing with lots of sharp bends. For normal folks, I don't see why Dura-Ace (or the equivalent) would ever be insufficient.

jasonrobo02

Best bargain is the PBK cable set which includes everything you need for road shifters and brakes and is campy/shimano compatible for like $12 with free shipping. I run these cables and have no issues.

zatopek

Yokozuna Jet Lubed cables are the smoothest I have found. However, you better have a Dremel mototool, or similar, to cut them properly and they will not tolerate sharp turns coming out of the hoods if you run short reach bars.
I find the Nokon Al housing to be a real pain to install and they get creaky sounding in short order. But, they look cool.
DA and Jagwire are the easiest to install and are my favorites for low cost.
Just installed the newest Gore Ride-On Professional System shifter cables and low friction brake cables on a new build a few days ago and, after only two rides, both work really nicely. I'm not sure if the Pro System is as smooth as Yokozuna. If not, it's a close second.

umd

True that the Nokons can get creaky, but I don't think it was really difficult to install. Mine at least came pre-strung on the liners.

prathmann

I've heard good things about the Nokon housing for use on folding bikes where the cable routing often involves tighter turns than usual. That leads to more friction and the need for more frequent replacement with conventional housing.

bdcheung

Nokon and Yokozuna = housing, not cables.

CrimsonKarter21

Technically, they are both cables. Most manufacturers differntiate them by "Inner" and Outer" cable. "Housing" is an abbreviation for "Outer cable housing."

fazzman

Sealed gore ride on.

FlashBazbo

I have used the sealed Gore system on my MTB. I liked the concept (which is very similar to Nokon), but the internal cable on Gores tends to stretch and never stops stretching. I had to adjust my cable tension about every third ride with the Gore cables. (The cable is black -- is it metal or some fiber?)

I went back to basic, Shimano Dura Ace cables. They last at least as long as the "exotics". They work. If you stretch them when you install them, they never stretch much anymore. They're inexpensive. And, if you replace cables once a year, like I do, there's no need for more expensive cables. Why spend four times as much for the same performance, except for the bling factor?

txvintage

Juagwire, the Honda Civic of cables.

umd

Cables don't stretch, that's a misnomer. They settle in, particularly the housing ends in the stops under all of the compression load. If you were getting excessive settling, it was probably due to installation.

Metal with a coating.

The performance is not the same, at least as far as the housings are concerned. The inner cables are less important IMO.

Grumpy McTrumpy

of course cables stretch. even straight single-strand wire stretches. ask a piano tuner.

fazzman

I have the gore system on my MTB and they have been great. They needed only minor adjustments since installation. The gore system is so smooth, no cable friction what so ever. Ok I'm sure there is some but they glide though the inner housing when installing them. I'm sold. The new road bike will be getting a set.

FlashBazbo

You're mistaken. Cables do stretch. Piano wire. Guitar strings. Industrial cable. And brake/shifter cables. If they are high quality, their initial stretch is about 90% of all the stretch they will ever exhibit. If they're not, they keep stretching and the stretching accelerates until they break or are replaced -- like my Gores.