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Suggestion for a new wheelset?

Old 01-08-10, 07:22 PM
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Suggestion for a new wheelset?

I've ordered a beautiful new Moots compact frame, and I'm trying to do some research on wheels. My "old" bike has Mavic Ksyrium SLs. What I like about them is the fact that they're stiff, responsive, and light. I like to climb, I'm only around 135 lbs., so I'm not likely to break spokes on a lightweight wheel. What I'm not crazy about is the bladed spokes in a sidewind. Does anyone have thoughts on the Dura Ace tubeless compatible rims? Or the Easton 90 SLX? I'm afraid they have bladed spokes; maybe I'm making too much of a deal about that.

Also, does anyone know anything about White Industries hubs? They're located in my town, which would be cool, but I don't know anything about them.

Any thoughts, recommendations are appreciated. It's fun researching all this stuff.
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Old 01-08-10, 08:50 PM
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I'd suggest doing some searching here on Bikeforums for past discussions. Lots of the basics are covered regularly.

I've done a bunch of research myself lately on wheel stuff. Started building/rebuilding older wheels to get practiced up for my own...a set that I'll be purchasing components for in another month or so. I plan to use the White Industries H2/H3 hubsets laced to some Kinlin XR-270 or 300's. Should be a strong set (if I don't jack up the build) and will run less than Half the cost of your Mavics. I've heard really great things about White Industries hubs, and trust the reviews enough to feel confident in them as a solid platform to build off of. So if you're up to the task, you could make your next set a home-build. Buy the components and build them up yourself...and take them to a LBS for confirmation/adjustments before riding if you're unsure. Worst case, you'll pay a bit extra for them to re-build them if you really jacked up.

Another option that you might look into...what seems to have a lot of local (Bikeforums) support is a wheelset built by the user "Psimet" He's got his own website (www.psimet.com) and is happy to offer helpful quotes and will spec a wheelset in any hub/spoke/lacing/rim configuration that you request (within reason, as long as it's a combination that he feels will be adequate for your use.) Lots of really happy Psimet wheelset owners around here.

For what it's worth, I've also heard really good things about Williams Cycling ( https://www.williamscycling.com/index.html ) which is also relatively local to you (Stockton). Their cheapest wheelset is about $480 right now but is highly reviewed on www.roadbikereview.com as well as here in BF.

In any case, there are plenty of options out there...please let us know what you decide on.

-Jeremy
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Old 01-08-10, 08:58 PM
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I thought the SLX had double butted spokes? Anyway, I know people who are happy with both the SLX and the Dura Ace tubeless. However, I'm still a fan of handbuilt wheels, especially at your weight. You could get some Kinlin XR-300 rims built up with 20 front/24 rear DT Revolution spokes, and end up with a moderately aero set that will hold up well and be around 1400g for the set.
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Old 01-09-10, 01:23 AM
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Thanks, Jeremy and urbankight,
I'm taking a look at Kinlin rims and White Industries hubs, and I sent an email to Psimet to see what he comes up with. I'll also mull this over with my LBS owner who's ordering the frame for me. I like very much the idea of putting my own wheels together (or letting someone with the skills do it!).
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Also these are a pretty good deal. I got them as a Christmas present and love them (just don't use their rim tape). Though it doesn't sound like your doing a budget build so some hand builts by psimet would probably be better.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
I thought the SLX had double butted spokes? .....However, I'm still a fan of handbuilt wheels, especially at your weight....
+1...the Eastons do have double butted spokes. And Urbanknight is right about using your elven weight to your advantage with some custom wheels.
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The Neauvation (sp?) wheels are a great deal and well-made. So are the wheelsets made by Xero. You can find a set of 1500 gr wheels for $300 or so from either of these companies if you shop around online or look on eBay.
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Old 01-09-10, 10:17 AM
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Pesonally I don't think that any of the wheels mentioned will be significantly better then your SL's, those are great wheels and imho you will have to spend alot more money for a significant upgrade.
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If I weighed 135 lbs and loved to climb I'd be on a set of American Classic Sprint 350's. With 28 and 32 spokes they weigh in at 1400 gms or 1300 with Sapiam spokes.
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Psimet is building me a set of Kinlin/White Industries wheels right now. I've been using White Industries hubs for years; personally, I don't think you will find anything better. They are light, strong, and very durable. Plus, it's nice to support the local guys...
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Campagnolo or Fulcrum ftw
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Kinlin + White Hubs simply rock. I got a pair from Psimet, and they kick ass. 24f/28r and <1500gm to boot, which is great for a 180lb+ rider like me. Given that the OP is a featherweight, he could go a fair bit lighter with less spokes as well.

Was talking to Competitive Cyclist about getting a pair of wheels to go with my Ridley and they flat-out told me that they had nothing that could touch this setup at this price.

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Originally Posted by vkalia View Post
Kinlin + White Hubs simply rock. I got a pair from Psimet, and they kick ass. 24f/28r and <1500gm to boot, which is great for a 180lb+ rider like me. Given that the OP is a featherweight, he could go a fair bit lighter with less spokes as well.

Was talking to Competitive Cyclist about getting a pair of wheels to go with my Ridley and they flat-out told me that they had nothing that could touch this setup at this price.

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What Spokes/nipples are you using? My weight estimate from Psimet with those same parts (WI hubs, Kinlin XR-270, with DT comp spokes/brass nipples [at my request]) is closer to 1600 gr. Probably 1620 if I go with XR-300 rims. No big deal for me, as I'm coming from Bontrager Race wheels that are ~1900 gr. But I am curious to know what you used? I'm also a lightweight of around 145, but prefer an overbuilt wheel that I don't have to fuss with to one that's going to maximize my competitive prowess. =)

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Sapim CX Rays and brass nips... White hubs front/rear.

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Jeremy,
Here's what Rob at Psimet recommended for me:
Front=White Ind. H2 F Silver (or black +$10) hub laced to a Kinlin XR-270 rim 20f/RadialX using CXRay-Black spokes and DT-12mm-Brass-Silver nipples

Rear=White Ind. H3 R Silver (or black +$10) hub with Shimano freehub body laced to a Kinlin XR-270 rim 24r/2X using CXRay-Black spokes on the Drive Side and laced 2X using CXRay-Black spokes on the Non-Drive Side and DT-12mm-Brass-Silver nipples

Estimated weight should be in the neighborhood of ~1456g for the set and the quoted price is $599

These sound like what you're planning to build for yourself. Talked to my bike shop owner to see if he'd be interested in building some wheels for me, and he said to be honest, they wouldn't feel comfortable building anything with less than say 28/32 spokes, just because they're not expert wheelbuilders. I'm going to do a little more reading, but I think these may be just the right thing. I assume I can get these in a configuration that works with Sram, but that'll be my next question.
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Anyone riding Reynolds Solitudes?

Also, don't mean to stray off topic, but what's a good website to learn about wheel rims, hubs, and spokes?
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Originally Posted by grafik1979 View Post
Anyone riding Reynolds Solitudes?

Also, don't mean to stray off topic, but what's a good website to learn about wheel rims, hubs, and spokes?
And what exaclty is it you want to learn?
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There's obviously a lot of details in wheelbuilding. I wanted to get an idea of what kind of spokes/rims/hubs are better/worse so I can spit out long strings of complicated letters and numbers and dashes too.
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