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Old 01-14-10, 07:22 PM
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Does such a beast exist?

Does company make a heavy duty TT/Triathlon frame? One that can handle lots of weight and has eyelets for panniers.
I'm guessing no, and it's something that you'd need to get custom made, but I though it's worth asking.
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Cheaper solution: get a road/touring bike and add clip-on aero bars.
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are you starting a new sport?
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Why would you build an areo frame and add luggage?
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Originally Posted by thirdgenbird
are you starting a new sport?
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Cheaper solution: get a road/touring bike and add clip-on aero bars.
That`s what I have right now, but the stem height is somewhat limiting for a good position. (I`ve got a surly long haul trucker & Profile Design T2+ aerobars, on the longest stem I could find that points way down)

Why would you build an areo frame and add luggage?
It`s less for the aero-ness of the frame and more of the aeroness of the position.

are you starting a new sport?
Yeah, the sport is called `shopping`, and the stores are 50km away.
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im glad we can all laugh
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How about a one size too small cross bike?
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jurassic park 2?
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New sport... Time trial touring

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Let's post something serious too... Best thing next to a certain frame that's not available on the market, is get yourself a road/touring frame. Get rid of the drop bars en put on TT bars.
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looking at your frame, it looks like you chop off a good deal of the head tube extension and get your bars down even more.

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looks like you chop off a good deal of the head tube extension
Hmmm, that's an interesting idea and looks like it might do the trick, do you know if most bike shops would be capable of doing that, or would I have to find a frame builder?
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If you want a custom frame, contact Tsunami Bikes. They'll build you a frame, custom geometry. For $600. Plus shipping.

I've ordered my frame and it's a doozy - a 40 cm frame (center to top of top tube) with a 56.5 top tube (the builder talked me down from the more extreme numbers I had). We'll see how it goes in late Jan when I hope to start riding it. I am paying an extra $50 for a BB30 compatible frame so I'll be out $650 + shipping.

This beats doing weird stuff to your bike.

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Originally Posted by AngrySaki
Yeah, the sport is called `shopping`, and the stores are 50km away.
Fully faired cargo trailer behind a stock TT rig.
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Another tip. If you can, find some old Specialized (?) panniers, I think they were called Tailwind. Apparently they act as a fairing and make you ride faster for the same effort, substantially so. Use them up front, down low. When I thought of long unsupported trips I thought of these.

I like the trailer idea too (single wheel trailer).

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Definitely consider cutting down the head tube. I'd personally never try a TT position on a LHT, those long chainstays are going to put WAY too much weight forward onto the front wheel.
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Copy of specialized Tailwinds https://www.angletechcycles.com/accessories/techwind.htm
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FYI, a straight up tri bike with panniers would be a terrible idea because it could completely eff up the steering. You'd understeer yourself directly into oncoming traffic. Even road bikes tend to handle poorly with panniers.
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get a single wheeled trailer.

you use the trailer when you want to haul and you take it off when you don't.

bonus is that it doesn't foul up the weight distribution on the bike like panniers do.
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just balance your stuff on your head like they do in 3rd world countries.

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I doubt something like that exists, but if it does, keep it the hell out of my paceline!
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Originally Posted by AngrySaki
That`s what I have right now, but the stem height is somewhat limiting for a good position. (I`ve got a surly long haul trucker & Profile Design T2+ aerobars, on the longest stem I could find that points way down)
Wait, so are you wanting your bars lower?
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Getting a trailer could be a good idea, i`ve thought about it in the past, but it would require a new bike + trailer + bags for the trailer (already have panniers).

Wait, so are you wanting your bars lower?
I`m not sure. They`re as low as is physically possible right now (with an adjustable -60degrees, 140mm stem), and there`s now way for me to try them any lower, so they may be at the ideal height right now.
However, the handlebars are currently a bit too close because the stem is pointing down so much. If I could get the headtube lower, at the very least I`d be able to angle the stem a bit less and get the handlebars a bit further out. Right now my hands are either a bit off the end of the aerobars (not good for control), or my triceps start getting tired because my arms are too bent.


I`ve also (as mentioned) wondered about the handling. I`ve never ridden a proper TT bike so i can`t compare, but I find I can control my bike well enough the way it is now (with fairly heavy rear panniers), for my purposes atleast.

If you want a custom frame, contact Tsunami Bikes. They'll build you a frame, custom geometry. For $600. Plus shipping.
I`ve never looked into custom builds before, but that sounds like a pretty good deal.
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