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Old 02-03-10, 09:11 AM
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Look Keo Pedal Lineup

Hi All,

I'm looking to upgrade to some new pedals, but am having trouble finding good information about the Look Keo lineup. I know they use different cleats than the old "Delta" Looks, but I'm not sure if all Keo pedals (classic, 2 Max, Blade, etc.) use the same cleat? E.g. are there just two Look cleats, Delta and Keo? Also, what is the hierarchy of Keo pedals (as in, best to worst)? The Look website is showing a 2009 catalog that seems to show 2008 info... and all other sources are a bit confusing. Can someone clear this up?

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they dropped in delta line a few years ago but still make the cleat for the people that are still riding some of those boat anchors. keo cleats fit all keo pedals. btw you know you get 4.5 cleats when you purchase the pedals, right?
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Originally Posted by cjump
they dropped in delta line a few years ago but still make the cleat for the people that are still riding some of those boat anchors. keo cleats fit all keo pedals. btw you know you get 4.5 cleats when you purchase the pedals, right?
Good stuff. I wasn't sure if the Keo 2 Max and Blade, etc. had different cleats, since they seem to be very different 'shapes'. I did see that they are shipping 4.5 cleats rather than 9 with the Keos. Interesting switch... Anyone have thoughts on the hierarchy? What is the 'sweet spot' in terms of value/cost?

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keo max2 or the carbon max2's. don't waste any more money unless you have it to piss away

just an fyi, the sprint is now the max2.

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Originally Posted by darrencope
Good stuff. I wasn't sure if the Keo 2 Max and Blade, etc. had different cleats, since they seem to be very different 'shapes'. I did see that they are shipping 4.5 cleats rather than 9 with the Keos. Interesting switch... Anyone have thoughts on the hierarchy? What is the 'sweet spot' in terms of value/cost?

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The Keo Max has a broader platform and the Blade is the all carbon model if I'm not mistaken. The value will depend on whether a high end pedal is where you want to spend your money; the Keo Sprint is fine for training or just regular riding and if you want to spend even less then the Keo Classic will get the job done as well. I would look at the pricing at some of the European sites (PBK, chainreactioncycles etc) because you can often get really good deals on the higher end Keo models.
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Originally Posted by cjump
keo max2 or the carbon max2's. don't waste any more money unless you have it to piss away

just an fyi, the sprint has been replaced with the max2.
Fixed :-)

As far as the hierarchy.
Up until last year it was Keo Easy, Classic, Sprint, Carbon, Carbon HM/Ti (Ironman or whatever it was called)
Now it's Easy, Classic, Keo 2 Max, Keo 2 Max Carbon and Blade.

Look (pun intended) here: https://www.lookcycle.com/en/us/route/pedales.html

Grey cleats (4.5 deg float) included standard with most Keos.
Black (fixed) and Red (9 deg) available separately. I don't have Keos but have always used the black Deltas for the previous look compatible pedals I've had in the past.
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Thanks guys, that's exactly what I was hoping to learn!

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PBK has the Keo 2 Max (non-Carbon) for about $100.00. I just got a set to put on my main bike and I like them better than the Classics they replaced. The Max2's have much less "swing" in them, meaning that they don't whirl around wildly when I'm trying to get clipped in. I can click my left foot in, peddle down if I need to and the right pedal stays put. My Classics would spin around freely if I did the same thing and I'd end up with my foot on an upside down pedal.

I put the old Classics on my trainer bike.
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The reason the Blade looks so different is the use of a leaf spring instead of a coiled wire spring.
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
The reason the Blade looks so different is the use of a leaf spring instead of a coiled wire spring.
Was this a weight saving or performance improving thing? Or both?
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Originally Posted by RacerOne
Was this a weight saving or performance improving thing? Or both?
Both I think. The spring is made of carbon fiber.
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ive got two pairs of classics and i love them.
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Originally Posted by DieselDan
Both I think. The spring is made of carbon fiber.
Hmmm...let's see.
Weight savings - minimal over the regular Carbons
Performance improvement - don't think so.They have only two settings for retention force (depending on the "blade" used) vs the rest of the lineup that has a great range of fine adjustment!
Price- HA! Here's where they get you. These few "benefits" for more than twice the price...

Not worth it IMHO.
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One more thing - in the past only the Keo carbon and above had 3 bearings, all else had 2.
Now everything but the Keo Easy have 3 bearings.
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One more thing - in the past only the Keo carbon and above had 3 bearings, all else had 2.
Now everything but the Keo Easy have 3 bearings.
when did they change this?
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