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So the 10 speed "PowerLock" link from SRAM

Old 02-05-10, 07:16 AM
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So the 10 speed "PowerLock" link from SRAM

What's the point of that? I just got through with upgrading my drive trains to 10 speed. I loved the older powerLink that allowed me to drop the chain whenever I pleased. But this ...well, this it's stupid. Or I am (not the first time) If I can't pull the chain without my chain tool, what's the point of a "special" link?

Help me out, what am I missing here?

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Old 02-05-10, 07:23 AM
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I just built up my bike with a 2010 Force group ------- when I installed the chain I used a Wipperman master link for that very reason. I clean the chain approximately every 500 miles or so and really like not having to use a chain tool to drop the chain. I agree ----- why have the powerlock. Lp
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You can still remove it at the powerlock - you just need to use the Park removable link tool or carefully use some pliers. That being said, I use a DA chain with a KMC link.
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Old 02-05-10, 07:41 AM
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The current Wipperman master link isn't the best fit for a SRAM or Campy UN chain share the same width across the inner plates. It fits Shimano, Wipperman or KMC chains the best.

As noted, you can get a powerloc off, but it ususally takes the Park chain pliers. If the link has no snap to it when it's put back on, the a new one is in order.
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Campy has the worst chain connector on the market bar none. My $100 record chain used one month is now relegated to the scrap bin as the link causes a nice jump in 18 cog. If Campy is going to make chains just a one install deal how bouts they drop the prices across the board


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There's really no need to remove the chain to clean it, with Park's chain cleaning tool and simple green, it literally takes 1 minute to clean your chain and you can leave it on the bike.
https://parktool.com/products/detail.asp?cat=5&item=CM-5
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Old 02-05-10, 08:09 AM
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Yes & no,

Cleaning on the bike needs only cleaner & a good brush.

But lubing, other than a quick spray, is best off the bike.
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Old 02-05-10, 08:23 AM
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I have the SRAM powerlink on one bike and it's pretty easy to remove the link with a pair of slip-joint pliers with a bit of practice. The best way to re-install it is with the pliers as well--stomping on the pedal is not the best technique for getting it back together. That said, I have a Wipperman on another bike and prefer it.
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Old 02-05-10, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Daytrip View Post
I have the SRAM powerlink on one bike and it's pretty easy to remove the link with a pair of slip-joint pliers with a bit of practice. The best way to re-install it is with the pliers as well--stomping on the pedal is not the best technique for getting it back together. That said, I have a Wipperman on another bike and prefer it.
PowerLink,

Or "PowerLock?"

I have the powerLink still on the MTB's. No tools required to remove. PowerLock different.
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Old 02-05-10, 09:03 AM
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Sorry--PowerLock on a 10-sp Shimano 105 chain.
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I switched to the KMC X10SL for the "MissingLink".
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My understanding is the new Powerlock is not re-useable / once and done. Lp
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That's what they say, but it's not true.
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https://cdn.media.cyclingnews.com/200...nglish_600.jpg

Does it look like this? I think they're now saying you can only use it once, but I've reused mine lots of times (10-20 times over the life of the chain probably)
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Originally Posted by saba View Post
Campy has the worst chain connector on the market bar none. My $100 record chain used one month is now relegated to the scrap bin as the link causes a nice jump in 18 cog. If Campy is going to make chains just a one install deal how bouts they drop the prices across the board


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You got screwed. You can get a Veloce 10 chain for about $30 and even a Record model (no longer made) is only $45-50.

The HD-L pin works just as well as a Shimano joining pin. A pin causing skip in only the 18T cog is nonsense. If it skips on the 18T it should skip on other small cogs too.

There's no need to trach the chain either. Push the joining pin out and install a SRAM 10 powerloc, Forseter superlink model 4 or the KMC missing link made for the the Campy 5.9mm chain.
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Chain maintenance must be the most understood topic in cycling mechanics.

You can't lube a chain properly on the bike? Nonsense. Campy recommends never removing the chain for cleaning and that means always lubing on the bike. I prefer to remove my chain for cleaning, but I you can get by without it.

Simple Green for cleaning - not unless you take the extra steps to rinse it off and then use something to displace the water. Mineral spirits is far better. A good lube consists of 3-4 parts mineral spirits and 1 part oil - motor oil or gear lube both work.
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Since I got a chain with a removable link I've been removing it and soaking it a shallow bowl filled with Boeshield T-9. I fill it enough to cover about 1/2 the thickness of the chain, then flip the chain--this stuff is expensive enough. It lasts for a long time if you use it this way. It dissolves all the dirt and grime, minor corrosion, and leaves behind a clean parfin wax.

I use this method to clean and lube my chain (all in one step) every 200 miles. You just have to let it sit and soak in the Boeshield for a little while. If it really comes out black and dirty, I empty the bowl and pour a little more and let it soak. Chain comes out super-clean and really quiet if you do this.
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Originally Posted by DaveSSS View Post
You got screwed. You can get a Veloce 10 chain for about $30 and even a Record model (no longer made) is only $45-50.

The HD-L pin works just as well as a Shimano joining pin. A pin causing skip in only the 18T cog is nonsense. If it skips on the 18T it should skip on other small cogs too.

There's no need to trach the chain either. Push the joining pin out and install a SRAM 10 powerloc, Forseter superlink model 4 or the KMC missing link made for the the Campy 5.9mm chain.
I have to assume he's talking about the 11sp chain, which really does cost that much (and requires a special tool to install.)

Personally, my chain is the only non-SRAM component in my drivetrain. Much happier with my KMC.
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Originally Posted by brian416 View Post
There's really no need to remove the chain to clean it, with Park's chain cleaning tool and simple green, it literally takes 1 minute to clean your chain and you can leave it on the bike.
https://parktool.com/products/detail.asp?cat=5&item=CM-5
People install removable links not so much to make the chain easier to clean, as to make the bike easier to clean. It's much easier to clean the derailleur pulleys and chainrings, and run a rag through the inside of the FD, wipe down the chainstays etc. without the chain in place.

And a side bonus is that the chain is a bit easier to clean as well, but that's not really the issue.

If you are running a Shimano, Wipperman or KMC chain the Wipperman link is unbeatable. Easy on, easy off, no tools, indefinitely re-usable.
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