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Paul Y. 02-12-10 09:07 PM

switching out cassettes: is it that easy:
 
Reading over one of patentcads latest threads, it looks like most of you guys switch out cassettes quite frequently. I do quite a bit on my bike, is it that easy to do. I run a 7800 12-27 but would like to go to a 11-25 sometimes.

saratoga 02-12-10 09:09 PM

With the right tools, yes it's that easy.

operator 02-12-10 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Y. (Post 10397326)
Reading over one of patentcads latest threads, it looks like most of you guys switch out cassettes quite frequently. I do quite a bit on my bike, is it that easy to do. I run a 7800 12-27 but would like to go to a 11-25 sometimes.

What kind of a question is that? It's hard if you have one-arm. Or no arms.

Gluteus 02-12-10 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by saratoga (Post 10397332)
With the right tools, yes it's that easy.

+ 1. Five minute job, if you have the tools.

Paul Y. 02-12-10 09:21 PM

merci beaucoup, monsieur!

BarryJo 02-12-10 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Y. (Post 10397381)
merci beaucoup, monsieur!

One of these:
http://www.parktool.com/images/produ...05727_4861.jpg
plus one of these:
http://millerrepairservice.com/yahoo....150194221.jpg

And some muscle.

I'm sure there are Youtube videos to show you how easy it really is.....

edit: D'oh! I forgot, you'll need the chain whip mcjimbo mentioned.

echappist 02-12-10 09:26 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

edit: almost beat me to it, except for this

http://www.cambriabike.com/Images/pr...chain_whip.jpg:p


Originally Posted by Paul Y. (Post 10397326)
Reading over one of patentcads latest threads, it looks like most of you guys switch out cassettes quite frequently. I do quite a bit on my bike, is it that easy to do. I run a 7800 12-27 but would like to go to a 11-25 sometimes.

you need to go to parktools website more often

but to save you some time, you need:

a chain whip (or whatever that will prevent the cassette from rotating)
a cassette lockring tool (comes in shimano & campy versions)
and a huge-ass adjustable wrench, the longer the better as you need to get a good bit of torque tightening and loosening the lockring

Gluteus 02-12-10 09:26 PM

Check this:

http://bicycletutor.com/replace-cassette-cluster/

Mash Master 02-12-10 11:34 PM

Just make sure you seat the cassette in straight and you don't cross thread the locking nut. Other than that, it's cake.

Beaker 02-12-10 11:42 PM

Yes, it is that easy.

RacerOne 02-12-10 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by BarryJo (Post 10397387)
And some muscle.

Dang.

umd 02-12-10 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by Gluteus (Post 10397355)
+ 1. Five minute job, if you have the tools.

Slowpoke

Velo Vol 02-12-10 11:59 PM

Why do you need to change cassettes? A 12x25 fits all purposes.

383 02-13-10 12:49 AM

Anyone ever have a cassette they just couldn't remove? I have no idea what the hell the problem was, I couldn't get the damn thing off. And no, I wasn't in the tightening direction, I made very sure of that.

operator 02-13-10 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by 383 (Post 10397858)
Anyone ever have a cassette they just couldn't remove? I have no idea what the hell the problem was, I couldn't get the damn thing off. And no, I wasn't in the tightening direction, I made very sure of that.

Seized lockring. Not uncommon.

banerjek 02-13-10 01:29 AM


Originally Posted by Velo Vol (Post 10397811)
Why do you need to change cassettes? A 12x25 fits all purposes.

If you actually ride much, you'll wear them out even if they do last significantly longer than a chain. It's not a bad idea to change them when they wear out.

Plus, a 12/25 may be a decent all 'round cassette, but it won't be the best choice for many riders and applications.

Pedaleur 02-13-10 03:33 AM

Make your own chain whip with a piece of scrap metal and an old chain.

JonnyV 02-13-10 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Pedaleur (Post 10398006)
Make your own chain whip with a piece of scrap metal and an old chain.

I did this with a pedal wrench from an exercise bike. Had the 15mm open end on one end, the chain on the other. Nice little tool until I bought a tool kit that had everything I need.

Daytrip 02-13-10 01:34 PM

I guess I'm the only one who uses a torque wrench.

kimconyc 02-13-10 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Y. (Post 10397326)
Reading over one of patentcads latest threads, it looks like most of you guys switch out cassettes quite frequently. I do quite a bit on my bike, is it that easy to do. I run a 7800 12-27 but would like to go to a 11-25 sometimes.

I personally don't swap cassettes much, if at all.

Having said that, if you have Mavic wheels, which are pretty common OEM wheels, you can buy a spare freehub body and just swap the entire cassette (along with freehub body) without actually taking the cassette off the freehub; all you need is 2 allen wrenches so it's even faster than using a chainwhip and lockring tool.

I would probably do this if I had a Campy equipped bike as well as a Shimano/SRAM bike and wanted to cross-mix wheelsets.

exRunner 02-13-10 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Daytrip (Post 10399143)
I guess I'm the only one who uses a torque wrench.

Nope, so do I.

knowledgdropper 02-13-10 01:57 PM

I got a "Pedro's Vise Whip" for Christmas and it has made a quick job even quicker:

http://tfe.me/image/480_345/TL0594.jpg

I forget what brand (not Park, though) cassette tool I have, but it fits onto a 3/8" drive ratchet wrench (rather than a large spanner, as above). Makes fitting a torque wrench easier.

Paul Y. 02-13-10 02:09 PM

Thanks for all the help! That vise grip looks like a great tool. Still need a chain whip though.

knowledgdropper 02-13-10 02:17 PM

If you get the vice whip, you don't need a chain whip.;)

hammond9705 02-13-10 02:23 PM

Also, it's much easier to clean a cassette if you remove it then leaving it on the bike


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