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Modern cycling - a gear fest?

Old 02-22-10, 12:52 PM
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Modern cycling - a gear fest?

I ride old road bikes with mostly Campy NR parts. I do the group rides on Sunday(in season). To me I really dont care what I am riding as long as it works well and everythings adjusted properly. I enjoy the ride, the bike isnt really a consideration when it comes to my performance. What I ate, how hard I worked the previous week, how well I slept, etc. is what I pay attention to, and effects the quality of my riding.

On the Road Forum everyone talks about their gear. Getting new wheels, tires, reducing bike weight to make them go faster. Is the modern roadie a pure gearhead? The bike maufacturers must be loving the modern road riders obsession with equipment. And then theres the equipment that monitors the riders watt output?

Just my observation as to the evolution of the sport.

Back in the day the gearheads were an offshoot of the sport of cycling. Now the gearhead mentality is the prevailing force of cycling.

Any thoughts? - Popcorn in the microwave as I type.
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Old 02-22-10, 12:53 PM
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This isn't going to work well, mmmk.
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If we don't discuss the gear, there's nothing to talk about.
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Old 02-22-10, 12:58 PM
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If we don't discuss the gear, there's nothing to talk about.
I suppose we could take tape measures to our Guads.
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I think it's symptomatic of what's happened in all sports since maximizing performance at the top level has been made so important. The marketing wizards then spin to make it as important to the average rider so the best thing to do is be honest with yourself as to what you feel will help your ride. Technology has its place and can definitely improve the quality of an experience but there's more to it than just that, and I think most cyclists are aware of that on some level.
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Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
Any thoughts? - Popcorn in the microwave as I type.
Yeah, you're probably right.

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It's not only in road cycling. Look everywhere - car enthusiasts, photography geeks, computer gurus etc etc. Everyone trying to make things more, better, faster, lighter prettier.

I am one of them. Why? I am not sure. Maybe, because life is so freaking short and we are trying to get the MOST from it? We've become very materialistic and always eager for more things. The whole economy based on that.

I've asked one guy at he LBS, one of the customers. "Why are doing this to our bikes? Counting grams and milligrams while carrying around extra 20 pounds of fat in our belly? The answer was - loosing weight os no fun, upgrading parts and components IS.
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I like old fat guys on bicycle clubs who ride 3 hours a week on a cevelo w/ a powertap.
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I'm not old enough to really talk about back in the day but I starting cycling over 15 years ago and I find nothing has changed. Exact same mentalities in the same ratios. I still think I'm young, but that's a generation of cycling. No way is it just 'these kids these days' or something like that, although every generation ever has claimed as much.

That being said, you also realize that internet forums are not an accurate cross-section of the cycling population. Guy with a beard and white cotton socks on a steel bike with toe clips is a real cyclist, but probably couldn't imagine talking about it with strangers on the internet. In other words, while we have all types here on average 'it's all about the ride' guy is riding, not posting.
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Originally Posted by tspek View Post
I like old fat guys on bicycle clubs who ride 3 hours a week on a cevelo w/ a powertap.
I don't care for those posers. But I admire fat guys that do ANY kind of activities to become better fit and doesn't matter what he/she is on and what he/she is wearing.
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Old 02-22-10, 01:15 PM
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you're on a bike forum. what do you expect?
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It's probably due to the growth of the consumerist and fast-food mentality in modern society. Even when I meet Asian students who just got off the boat from the homeland to the US for school, lots of them are into whatever material goods they can accumulate. Anybody with enough money can buy whatever gear they want. But it takes time and patience to go out and hammer on the bike for a long time.

Having said that it is of course cool to have some slick gear... It is also fun to race traffic on my old 30 pound steel commuter beater...
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Some people have more than one hobby. Don't confuse the hobby of gear selection and acquisition with the hobby of cycling or power analysis and coaching.
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I said it before in another thread but it needs repeating: bikefoums is not a reflection of reality.

Get over it.
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With apologies to George Carlin:

Anyone who spends less than I do on gear is a loser. Anyone who spends more is a poseur.
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
I said it before in another thread but it needs repeating: bikefoums is not a reflection of reality.

Get over it.
Yes. But I'll add one word to show that all this gear obsession is not new: "Drillium". Look it up.

Sport cyclists have always been obsessed with gear. The bicycle is an integral part of the sport of cycling, so this might be understandable.
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Originally Posted by umd View Post
I said it before in another thread but it needs repeating: bikefoums is not a reflection of reality.

Get over it.
It was just starting to get good.
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[QUOTE=Staarkhand;10436073]
That being said, you also realize that internet forums are not an accurate cross-section of the cycling population. QUOTE]

+1

But cycling, like many other gear-intensive sports (climbing comes to mind), does seem to attract a certain type of gearheaded athletes. If you don't like the bicycle itself I think you would have a hard time enjoying the sport of cycling.

But really, I think the same goes for any sport. Athletic goods and equipment are an enormous market, and the machine of advertising has capitalized.
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More food for thought. The battle of needs and wants.

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Originally Posted by big chainring View Post
I ride old road bikes with mostly Campy NR parts. I do the group rides on Sunday(in season). To me I really dont care what I am riding as long as it works well and everythings adjusted properly. I enjoy the ride, the bike isnt really a consideration when it comes to my performance. What I ate, how hard I worked the previous week, how well I slept, etc. is what I pay attention to, and effects the quality of my riding.

On the Road Forum everyone talks about their gear. Getting new wheels, tires, reducing bike weight to make them go faster. Is the modern roadie a pure gearhead? The bike maufacturers must be loving the modern road riders obsession with equipment. And then theres the equipment that monitors the riders watt output?

Just my observation as to the evolution of the sport.

Back in the day the gearheads were an offshoot of the sport of cycling. Now the gearhead mentality is the prevailing force of cycling.

Any thoughts? - Popcorn in the microwave as I type.
you confuse modern with contemporary.
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"And then theres the equipment that monitors the riders watt output? "


I agree with much of the original post. You can definitely have just as much fun on cheap gear. It is also much easier for people to throw money at the problem than to train harder.

On the other hand, the powermeter has completely revolutionized modern cycling training. If may be completely irrelavant to your cycling but there is no sense criticizing what you don't understand.
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One thing that we can't do on the internet very well is discuss the excitement of cycling or the great feeling you get after giving it your all on a long hard ride. A lot of people would not even want to try. It'd be like trying to explain what makes sex pleasurable.

Something that IS easy to do on the internet however, is count grams, gears, miles, watts etc.

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The road cycling forum is a collection of folks who simply ride road bikes for enjoyment or fitness and some who race. Because of this you'll have people who just want something that will work and last. On the other hand people who race and want every bit of edge they can get will talk about gear upgrades more often.

Plus people get their kicks in different ways. For some it is just about the gear, for others it's just about the ride.
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Originally Posted by unbelievablyred View Post
One thing that we can't do on the internet very well is discuss the excitement of cycling or the great feeling you get after giving it your all on a long hard ride. A lot of people would not even want to try. It'd be like trying to explain what makes sex pleasurable.

Something that IS easy to do on the internet however, is count grams, gears, miles, watts etc.
Though my favorite threads are usually ride descriptions or picture threads that take me out of the office and on the bike mentally...
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