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My definition of a true wheel changed...

Old 02-24-10, 06:26 AM
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My definition of a true wheel changed...

...when PSIMET built me a wheel.

I use to think "true" meant, kinda sorta true.

After 10 weeks riding his, I know now that a "true" wheel can remain perfectly true.

That is all.
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Old 02-24-10, 07:42 AM
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12 months of trueness for aham23 and his Psimet Custom Wheels. later.
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You mean now you know what a properly tensioned wheel means... which is: it stays in true.
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Old 02-24-10, 10:25 AM
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What wheels did you have before?
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My set is on order. Looking forward to wheels that start true, stay true and are nothing but true.

I'm replacing a set of Xero XSR3s twin-spoke affairs (not so true after 3,500 miles) with Kenda Kontender tires.

I'm matching the Psimets with Continental GP400s tires, per Rob's recommendation.

Can't wait.
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Originally Posted by goodtimes5 View Post
What wheels did you have before?
Lots.
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OK I believe you but I've had good luck with the cheap wheels I won and having had a pro check the tension, etc and true them up. This "season" will be a good test. I rode 2,000 miles last year using 4 bikes and I plan on doing even more miles this year, but on fewer bikes!
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Old 02-24-10, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
OK I believe you but I've had good luck with the cheap wheels I won and having had a pro check the tension, etc and true them up. This "season" will be a good test. I rode 2,000 miles last year using 4 bikes and I plan on doing even more miles this year, but on fewer bikes!
Good luck? 2000 miles between 4 bikes aint enough to get the wheels dirty....It will take more than that on one bike to show signs of problems from improper tension.
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Sigh, my wheels have stayed fairly true but the rear wheel has needed adjustments, but nothing big. Still, I paid good money (for me)
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Originally Posted by rumrunn6 View Post
OK I believe you but I've had good luck with the cheap wheels I won and having had a pro check the tension, etc and true them up. This "season" will be a good test. I rode 2,000 miles last year using 4 bikes and I plan on doing even more miles this year, but on fewer bikes!
I bet you think "true" is what I use to think it is.

You know when you get that shiny new wheel and give it that first spin in your hands and it rolls perfectly? Then you go out for a few rides and there is an ever-slight wobble? That use to be true to me too. Now, not so much.
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You're getting me excited...Only a few more weeks until I get my PT wheelsets from Psimet...

Of course the other thread has me worried, when there is talk of supply problems...
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Originally Posted by Mr. Beanz View Post
Good luck? 2000 miles between 4 bikes aint enough to get the wheels dirty....It will take more than that on one bike to show signs of problems from improper tension.
Correct. Barring unusually hard impacts, the best wheels will wear through the rim before needing another turn from a spoke wrench.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
Correct. Barring unusually hard impacts, the best wheels will wear through the rim before needing another turn from a spoke wrench.
I've certainly had my share of unusually hard impacts
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Correct. Barring unusually hard impacts, the best wheels will wear through the rim before needing another turn from a spoke wrench.
Wow. I'm impressed. That's good to know.
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Originally Posted by rbart4506 View Post
You're getting me excited...Only a few more weeks until I get my PT wheelsets from Psimet...

Of course the other thread has me worried, when there is talk of supply problems...
No worries. Hard to tell from screen names but if you have the (2) I am thinking of then you're fine and due up in short order.

Thanks for the kind words from many of you. As UK mentions though - it's just how I build. I don't claim to know anything more than the next builder (save for a few unique tricks) and still feel that any well built wheel should perform well regardless of who builds it.

I won't say wheels never need to be tweaked - even if built well. Things happen and conditions happen. That's why I personally use components that can be serviced anywhere -

- that also comes from being stuck with a broken spoke on a set of pre-built Shimano wheels. I was at my turn-around point, right next to a bike shop, and the spoke broke. Proprietary. No help at the shop. Had to limp home 15+ miles on the wheel - passing at least 1 other shop on the way. I couldn't help but think - this is stupid. This was compounded when I weighed up my set of handbuilt 32 3X OP/Ultegras and found them to be lighter than the prebuilts as well.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
You mean now you know what a properly tensioned wheel means... which is: it stays in true.
This.
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I've certainly had my share of unusually hard impacts
You know, I never got around to asking if you needed to true your wheel after that race. Before I even realized who I hit, I was thinking "Oh, I hope that didn't break this guy's fancy carbon wheels."
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I won't say wheels never need to be tweaked - even if built well. Things happen and conditions happen. That's why I personally use components that can be serviced anywhere -
Agreed. Even though I have never broken a spoke (I have had to true my own wheels for one reason or another), I have peace of mind that if I do, it will be easy to fix.
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
You know, I never got around to asking if you needed to true your wheel after that race. Before I even realized who I hit, I was thinking "Oh, I hope that didn't break this guy's fancy carbon wheels."
Oh I missed the story there is looks like....
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Agreed. Even though I have never broken a spoke (I have had to true my own wheels for one reason or another), I have peace of mind that if I do, it will be easy to fix.
didn't you have a big wipe out 2-3 years ago, on a wheel that you built?
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You know, I never got around to asking if you needed to true your wheel after that race. Before I even realized who I hit, I was thinking "Oh, I hope that didn't break this guy's fancy carbon wheels."
No, those wheels have been very solid. Didn't even go out of true when I got hit by a car. Sadly last year I broke the end of the axle trying to take it apart to clean it, and finally got around to having it rebuilt with a new dt Swiss 240s hub. I asked you about it a few weeks ago but decided it would be easier to stay local. I used aerolites and competition spokes, and will use it for the first time this weekend.
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hey Psimet, i love you man! srsly. later.
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