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First Road Bike question: new or used?

Old 03-09-10, 10:25 AM
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First Road Bike question: new or used?

I have been cycling as a hobby/for exercise/commute to work regularly since 2006. My annual routine seems to be as such:
-Springtime comes, start to ride
-Ride every day in the summer (~1 hour (15 miles), some longer rides)
-Ride most days in the fall (~1 hour)
-Gets cold, stop riding

I started out on a Raleigh Mojave 4.0 hard tail mountain bike and rode mostly on greenway style paths, some offroad, no serious single-track or jumps or anything

I then inherited a Univega Via Carisma commuter-esque bike from a friend's dad and wanted to take on some longer rides (~20-30 miles). I usually took a 2 hour ride on the weekends.

I am interested in getting into road biking more, doing 20-30 mile rides more regularly, and trying to do some 40-50 mile rides. I am in the market for a bike and my friend's dad is offering me his spare road bike. I was hoping to spend ~$600 on a road bike (maybe full 105) but he is offering me a pretty sweet bike (more bike than I need right now) for a good deal for $1k. Should I spend more upfront and get the higher end bike that will meet pretty much any future needs I may have? What do you think?

The Roadbike he is offering me is a 2003 Klein Q with Full DuraAce 7800. I've ridden it once and seemed like a good fit sizewise, I'm 6'2 an it's a 60cm bike. He crashed it once and it has a small dent on the top tube (non-structural) but it's in great shape and been well maintained.

Should I get this bike, hunt for a new 105 bike for more like $800, or a different used bike?

Any advice or opinions are greatly appreciated.
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Old 03-09-10, 10:30 AM
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Go for the Klein with the Dura-Ace but make sure that the dent is not structural. I think a little older bike with higher quality components is a better proposition than a new bike with 105. Just my .02 cents.
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He said he had the bike rebuilt following the crash at a pretty reputable bike shop in town and the head mechanic confirmed it was a non-structural ding.

Is a 7 year old gruppo going to be as good as a new 105 or ultegra? What type of technology trickle down is there?

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There is a lot of trickle down tech, but the DA will still be made with better quality parts, as a general rule, and 6 years is really not that old. Ultegra just came out with new gruppo, and a new 105 is coming out now also, so there may be some great deals in the future as people upgrade to the new stuff. I picked up a new biked with Ultegra SL at a pretty steep discount.
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It will be 9 sp not 10 sp, but that wont matter if there isnt a gap in the gearing, where you usually ride.
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I don't think 9 vs 10 speeds matters too much. One option I do have is 53/42 or 50/39 chainring though. I guess I should go with the smaller one to get the best hill advantage.

Sounds like used but higher end is the way to go. Interesting versus the input I received on another forum which was to get a new bike with not as nice components but upgrade over time as needed.

I think I'm close to making the decision, it is about $300 more than what I was hoping to spend but hoping that will be ok.
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Old 03-09-10, 05:45 PM
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I'm glad the previous owner was upfront with you about the condition of the bike; I guess he had to be given the damage evident.

I would strongly recommend a new bike from a shop. That way you get a full warranty plus a 30 day tuneup. It's likely they'll offer discounts on apparel or accessories when you buy a bike as well.

As far as getting a higher line of components used, I would focus instead on the quality, integrity, ride, and fit of the frame instead.

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I don't think 9 vs 10 speeds matters too much. One option I do have is 53/42 or 50/39 chainring though. I guess I should go with the smaller one to get the best hill advantage.

Sounds like used but higher end is the way to go. Interesting versus the input I received on another forum which was to get a new bike with not as nice components but upgrade over time as needed.

I think I'm close to making the decision, it is about $300 more than what I was hoping to spend but hoping that will be ok.
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Old 03-09-10, 07:40 PM
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make sure it fits though, i am 6'2" and I ride a 58
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Originally Posted by roadandmountain View Post
I'm glad the previous owner was upfront with you about the condition of the bike; I guess he had to be given the damage evident.

I would strongly recommend a new bike from a shop. That way you get a full warranty plus a 30 day tuneup. It's likely they'll offer discounts on apparel or accessories when you buy a bike as well.

As far as getting a higher line of components used, I would focus instead on the quality, integrity, ride, and fit of the frame instead.
As a good friend's dad who is an avid bike enthusiast I definitely trust that the bike has been well cared for and he would not be hiding any issues. I'm relatively maintenance savvy so the 30 day tuneup isn't as big a draw as the warranty.

Hmmmmm, decisions decisions though since it might be nice to know each and every aspect of the bike's life.
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Where you going to get a new bike with 105 for $800?
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i bought one, but for 500 bucks, its called walmart.com and the bike is named corsa fa
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$1000 for a 2003 Klein that's been in a wreck with 9 speed is an OK price, but I wouldn't lose any sleep if the deal fell through. For that kind of money, you should be allowed to ride the bike. I don't mean around the block or short 3 mile ride, I'm talking a 20 or 30 mile ride so you can see if the fit is good and how you feel on it as the miles add up. If you like after the ride, then buy it. I believe that's a carbon frame on that bike with Dura-Ace. Should be a really nice ride with smooth shifting components.
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Originally Posted by roccobike View Post
$1000 for a 2003 Klein that's been in a wreck with 9 speed is an OK price, but I wouldn't lose any sleep if the deal fell through. For that kind of money, you should be allowed to ride the bike. I don't mean around the block or short 3 mile ride, I'm talking a 20 or 30 mile ride so you can see if the fit is good and how you feel on it as the miles add up. If you like after the ride, then buy it. I believe that's a carbon frame on that bike with Dura-Ace. Should be a really nice ride with smooth shifting components.
Aluminum frame with a carbon fork yeah. I'll be test riding it tues, probably don't have time for 20-30 miles but definitely 5 or more.
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Originally Posted by Hot Potato View Post
Where you going to get a new bike with 105 for $800?
At a local Performance Bike or online at BD are two places that come immediately to mind. I'm sure it's possible with leftovers at many shops too.
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Originally Posted by sirious94 View Post
make sure it fits though, i am 6'2" and I ride a 58
Definitely make sure it fits, but you won't necessarily ride the same size as someone else your height. I am 6'2" as well and ride a 63cm. It all depends on what fits for you.
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The Dura Ace 7800 group is smooth shifting and pretty much
trouble free. Did seller mention how many miles are on the components?
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The Dura Ace 7800 group is smooth shifting and pretty much
trouble free. Did seller mention how many miles are on the components?
The group has 5k on them but the Rear Derailleur has been replaced in the last 1k, cassette and chain have <200 miles on them.

I am in a pickle, see a pretty good deal on a Scattante at Performance with full Ultegra 6700 for $1300 new and would need to buy pedals/shoes and that's already more than the $1k i'm stretching for the Klein.
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I plan on selling my 2004 Lemond Zurich (half oclv 120 carbon half true temper ox plat steel w/ Ultegra) on Craigslist/Ebay today. Craigslist first though.) I never get a chance to ride. It's in near perfect condition.
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The saga ends, here's the new member of the family:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/9137475@N07/4439108443/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9137475@N07/4439108371/

Pictures taken with my iPhone so not exactly the best shots. I ended up going with the Klein because it was the best component set (full Dura Ace 7800) for the $, I know the bike's owner/history, I got a bunch of extras (original fork, helmet, two pairs of shoes, Polar watch/computer/HR monitor).

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Originally Posted by aeonderdonk View Post
The group has 5k on them but the Rear Derailleur has been replaced in the last 1k, cassette and chain have <200 miles on them.
Nice one : )

The fresh drivetrain would have sealed it for me.
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