don't like it, don't post it.

How is that differnt from what you're doing?

Depends, but my avg could be between 16 - 20 mph, and as I get in better shape I'm sure it could get up to 22 or 23. When I was in my teens and early twenties, I used to push to get a high avg speed over a certain distance. Now I just ride for time and have certain training goals on my ride. Avg speed is now more of a "afterthought," except when I'm timing myself on a course I've done over and over.

:lol:
Yeah, there do seem to be a few people here who act like blowhards now and again. Ah well...

No, you can start any thread you like. You just can't be picky/whiny about the responses you get. (And you are free to ignore the response that you don't like.)

Riding with a (faster) group might help you.

and you've replied to it again and again and again

I don't think he doesn't like what he posts...

Well yes, but TT speeds are on specific bikes, on aero bars, and generally seem to be on pretty flat ground and less distance.

And of course the goal of a race is not to go as fast as possible, but to cross the finish line first.

Although the question is silly on it's face, it's a common one, so here is some real world honest data:

Workout with some tempo & anaerobic intervals. No real hills, just a lot of rollers.
"Easy" ride this morning. Much of the same route as the previous data, but I turned around sooner.
The tail end of a century after I was "dropped". This was solo, but was preceeded by 60 miles with a group.

Maybe if you spent less time trying to impress people with numbers most don't understand or care about, you wouldn't be a middle category, middle of the road rider as you proclaim.

You're guilty of hanging around with a bunch of hardcore bikers and congratulating each other about your numbers and typing it on a blog that only your other hardcore buddies read and then get out into a race with others and don't live up to your expectations.

You can claim your not trying to impress anybody with this stuff but your actions speak otherwise.

If that was solo....I quit......

The OP asked for real-world numbers. I'm not trying to impress anyone, I know I'm "average"

What's your problem anyway?

Not totally true is stage racing.

You're not average, you're above average and seem to love posting numbers so people on here can tell you how good you are.

We all know you're good.

You're much better than I can ever dream of being.

Still true in stage racing. The goal is to have the lowest time of everyone, but that still isn't the same as going as fast as possible. Stage racing awards consistency above anything else.

I know I'm an average racer. I wasn't aware that the OP only wanted real-world numbers from slow people.

Edit: and I post the full data so that it's clear it's not just a number I pulled out of my ass.

Who pissed in your cornflakes? The OP asked for some averages. Instead of the normal BS umd gave him some real life numbers. Don't see your point.

You can win a stage racing event like the Tour and never win a stage.

Of course, that's why I said consistency. You never to do really well or be really fast, you just can never mess up. One bad day generally spells the end of your chances.

It's even worse for amateur stage races like I just did over the weekend. The time cuts can be really harsh, and any mishaps like a flat tire or a gap in a corner can be the end of the whole weekend.

Did you get a flat?

No, but one guy I know who was actually well placed in the GC did. There is a support truck but with a hill/rolling 23+ mph race and a 5% time cut you only get to lose a few minutes on the pack and you're done.

Another guy I know was 2nd in GC going into the crit and was involved in a crash. Fortunately it was in the last few k and they gave him same time, so he kept his GC spot.

Wow, did I create a **** storm or what?

As I said, I know there are variables.
As for me:
40 yo, 800 miles since October '09, Try to do 50+ miles per week. Around here it's not very hilly, but tends to be windy. I just thought I would throw the question out there.
I have seen increases since I started riding. Like anything else, the more you do the better you get.
I recently added a cadence monitor and have been concerning my self with a decent (85-95) cadence when I ride. I just thought my average speed might improve with efficiency.

and if it were true i would never win anything, anytime, anywhere. umd is faster than me on the hills and probably on the flats too but i win races every year because i am faster than him for 30 seconds or less.

numbers don't mean everything but they do mean a lot and umd has given you a lot to work with if you just take a little time to look at the numbers.

my ave speeds are horrendously low but it's very hard to have a good ave speed when you have to ride through the city and hit a stoplight every half mile or so. on my commute i can hammer sections between lights at 25-28 mph but my ave will still be 16 or 17 due to the lights. one more reason against ave speed.

a 40 mile ride in the country with a couple of stop signs is very different than a 40 mile ride through los angeles. you could do an easy ride in the country and have a higher ave speed than hammering through the city. and have a power meter will give you that info.

i'm always amazed at the ave speeds posted by people who live in bfe, i often wonder how much is terrain (or lack thereof), lack of stops and the dreaded 'internet effect'

you rather he just claim he averages 27mph and be done with it like the rest of the members? The numbers he posted are from short rides, no crazy power numbers and nothing to suggest showing off. Maybe you just don't know what you're looking at and assume its showing off? His numbers are the only ones that actually provide somewhat usable data, apart from wind speed and direction you have a a general idea of how his ride was. The averages are better than I can do solo but that also doesn't mean he's showing off, it just means he's trained more than me. Maybe I should get defensive about him being faster than me too? wow...

No, you just resurrected an existing storm.

But now you know that comparing different people's average speeds doesn't mean anything since there are so many variables.
Learn about different ways to train to improve your own numbers.

I'm just curious, what Category do you race?

I'm not a great road rider so you may want to ignore my STATs. I can't beat a 16 mph AVRG :(

47 miles
23.5 mph MAX
14.8 mph ARG

52.6 miles
MAX speed 33.9 mph - I went a little crazy at one point :D
AVRG speed 15.2 mph

58.56 miles
30.8 MAX speed
15.5 AVRG speed

63.4 miles
31.9 mph MAX speed
14.6 AVRG speed (the beach run in sandals and flat tire brought my avrg down, huh?)

44.26 miles
24.9 MAX speed
15.5 AVRG speed

44.3 miles
29.8 MAX speed (this was nice to see again)
14.7 AVRG speed

56.7 miles
26.9 MAX
13.3 AVRG

I know Boston is hilly, but are you sure your brake isn't rubbing? If you go up, you must come down, and most people can sprint to those max speeds, going downhill should be way faster

I've never seen anyone abbreviate average as "avrg" before.

Some people aren't comfortable going fast downhill, and brake heavily.