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Durability. Maintainability. Alloy nipples will fail through normal use. Not worth the 20g in 99% of the wheels to be made. Race only or special application then no problem.
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What's this 'special' that I'm reading about in your sig? I'm telling you now, I'm an unemployed college student, so its going to have to be a very big special....
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Something I put in there last fall before cross season and haven't taken out. Not advertising so I can't expand. You can always contact me through my site.
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Alloy nipples are more prone to breakage, they eventually build up corrosion in the threads and are also far more easy to round off with a spoke wrench. Typical story with alloy nipples would be that they start to corrode and lock themselves to the spokes, which requires more force on the spoke wrench to break free, which brings to reality their other weakness. Next thing you know your nipples are still locked to the spokes, and are now rounded off from the corners collapsing. Granted, this is more of an issue with older wheels that have seen many miles, but still an issue. Straight up failures are also not unheard of. Some people simply won't build with alloy nipples because of these weaknesses.
Brass is a wonderful material. It's as close to "self lubricating" a metal as I'm aware of (Most lock cylinders are made out of brass, where pins need to move freely after years of use), stronger and less likely to freeze to the spokes at the threads. Also, Brass nipples can be re-used, where alloy should never be reused. The two weaknesses of brass nipples are slightly heavier weight (about 20gr. per 32 spoke wheel), and no fancy (anodized) colors. Not much of a sacrifice considering the advantages IMO.
-Jeremy
Brass is a wonderful material. It's as close to "self lubricating" a metal as I'm aware of (Most lock cylinders are made out of brass, where pins need to move freely after years of use), stronger and less likely to freeze to the spokes at the threads. Also, Brass nipples can be re-used, where alloy should never be reused. The two weaknesses of brass nipples are slightly heavier weight (about 20gr. per 32 spoke wheel), and no fancy (anodized) colors. Not much of a sacrifice considering the advantages IMO.
-Jeremy
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Not to hijack the thread but I just received my Psimet wheels on Monday. Specs as follows:
Front=White Ind. H2 F Silver (or black +$10) hub laced to a DT RR585 rim 28f/2X using DT-Comp-Silver spokes and DT-12mm-Brass-Silver nipples
Rear=White Ind. H3 R Silver (or black +$10) hub with Shimano freehub body laced to a DT RR585 rim 32r/3X using DT-Comp-Silver spokes on the Drive Side and laced 3X using DT-Comp-Silver spokes on the Non-Drive Side and DT-12mm-Brass-Silver nipples
Absolutely loving them so far, very smooth and a pleasure to ride.
Front=White Ind. H2 F Silver (or black +$10) hub laced to a DT RR585 rim 28f/2X using DT-Comp-Silver spokes and DT-12mm-Brass-Silver nipples
Rear=White Ind. H3 R Silver (or black +$10) hub with Shimano freehub body laced to a DT RR585 rim 32r/3X using DT-Comp-Silver spokes on the Drive Side and laced 3X using DT-Comp-Silver spokes on the Non-Drive Side and DT-12mm-Brass-Silver nipples
Absolutely loving them so far, very smooth and a pleasure to ride.
Thanks for sharing. I went with the same silver hub/silver spokes/black rim combo. Will definitely be posting pictures of mine once they arrive and are built. =) Why the RR585 over the Kinlin XR-300 if I might ask?
-Jeremy
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Can you please explain how the tape makes tire installation easier? I have used both plastic and cotton and never noticed tire installation being different. I prefer the cotton.
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Making a kilometer blurry
I'll jump on the train too. My front wheel (built myself) is finally ready for replacement because the braking surface has worn through.
So, my new front from Psimet after much discussion:
XR-300
CX-Rays
Alchemy ELF hub
Brass nips
24h, radial
...and he's letting me build it!
I'm all giggly inside
So, my new front from Psimet after much discussion:
XR-300
CX-Rays
Alchemy ELF hub
Brass nips
24h, radial
...and he's letting me build it!
I'm all giggly inside
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I actually built the front shown above, using an XR300 20h rim from Psimet, a Bontrager hub salvaged from my buddy's wrecked wheel, and whatever spokes I found in my local shop's drawer..special eh?
I had a pretty bad crash with these in a crit last year, and broke two spokes in the front. You can actually see an indentation around the two spoke holes in question..I put a couple of new spokes in and I'm keeping an eye on it in case I need to replace the rim, but no issues thus far. Those rims are tough!
I had a pretty bad crash with these in a crit last year, and broke two spokes in the front. You can actually see an indentation around the two spoke holes in question..I put a couple of new spokes in and I'm keeping an eye on it in case I need to replace the rim, but no issues thus far. Those rims are tough!
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i misread the title. i thought psiment showed up at your door.
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That would be a real, custom build, wouldn't it?
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I'll jump on the train too. My front wheel (built myself) is finally ready for replacement because the braking surface has worn through.
So, my new front from Psimet after much discussion:
XR-300
CX-Rays
Alchemy ELF hub
Brass nips
24h, radial
...and he's letting me build it!
I'm all giggly inside
So, my new front from Psimet after much discussion:
XR-300
CX-Rays
Alchemy ELF hub
Brass nips
24h, radial
...and he's letting me build it!
I'm all giggly inside
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Because I copied and pasted wrong, I have the XR300 on both the front and rear... Whoops.
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Genetics have failed me
That I can only attest to. My front wheel popped already 4 alloy nipples. Only roughly 5000-6000 miles on the wheel. Snapped off right below the mushroom part of the nipple.
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+1 - I have been using tape exclusively but I have put some plugs on race application wheels for some sponsored riders. I will wait until we have a season of racing on them before I really start passing judgement on them but right now I would agree that my preference is strictly tape.
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does psimet also do weddings and bar mitzvahs?
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Making a kilometer blurry
That said, I use cotton.
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Which rim tape should I purchase for these wheels? Just stopped at the shop and they said they didn't have "Green" tape for road wheels. I've never purchased tape before.