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merlinextraligh 04-13-10 08:23 AM

Red vs Di2
 
If you were going to buy, or build up a new bike, and price was a secondary concern, would you go with Sram Red or Di2? (I don't want Campy simply because I have too many Shimano wheels, and cassettes to switch to different spacing.)

Weight favors Red. Bling favors Di2.

Shifting appears to favor Di2.

I know one poster on here replaced his Di2 group with Red.

Anybody else used both?

AngryScientist 04-13-10 08:26 AM

this thread should be good.

as for my 2 cents - i havent heard too many complaints about the top end groups, red, record or DA shifting poorly, so if red is :

a)lighter
b)cheaper
c)more reliable (strictly from a traditional and a availability/interchangeability of parts standpoint)

it would be a no-brainer for me.

kimconyc 04-13-10 08:30 AM

Di2, although I'd be tempted to get Campy SR11 even though it's inferior in every way (except looks perhaps) just to have a Campy bike.

Psimet2001 04-13-10 08:30 AM

It's really not fair to throw price out of the equation. It is the main factor between these two.

I would go with Red.

kimconyc 04-13-10 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 10663398)
If you were going to buy, or build up a new bike, and price was a secondary concern, would you go with Sram Red or Di2? (I don't want Campy simply because I have too many Shimano wheels, and cassettes to switch to different spacing.)

Weight favors Red. Bling favors Di2.

Shifting appears to favor Di2.

I know one poster on here replaced his Di2 group with Red.

Anybody else used both?

I have 2 bikes with Red. Rode a bike with SR11, rode a bike with Di2. Conclusion is Di2 is best.

AngryScientist 04-13-10 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by kimconyc (Post 10663454)
I have 2 bikes with Red. Rode a bike with SR11, rode a bike with Di2. Conclusion is Di2 is best.

there is your problem, ignorance is bliss.

c0lnago 04-13-10 08:42 AM

None of that junque for sure.

AngryScientist 04-13-10 08:43 AM

i have a serious question about Di2 - re:battery pack.

i see some of the bikes have the battery mounted below the BB, on a chainstay, under the bottle cage, etc.

are these battery packs totally waterproof, and if so, will they remain waterproof after repeated charging (presumably having to open some type of "cap").

gsteinb 04-13-10 08:45 AM

What a weird leap. What's wrong with regular dura ace as am option?

kimconyc 04-13-10 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by AngryScientist (Post 10663513)
i have a serious question about Di2 - re:battery pack.

i see some of the bikes have the battery mounted below the BB, on a chainstay, under the bottle cage, etc.

are these battery packs totally waterproof, and if so, will they remain waterproof after repeated charging (presumably having to open some type of "cap").

Yes.

BTW, Campy sucks, just saying... :innocent:

AngryScientist 04-13-10 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by kimconyc (Post 10663531)
Yes.

BTW, Campy [rules!!], just saying... :innocent:

:)

merlinextraligh 04-13-10 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Psimet2001 (Post 10663445)
It's really not fair to throw price out of the equation. It is the main factor between these two.

I would go with Red.


True. However, I think the price difference is dropping, and if, or when, I do this it would be to get a very nice bike that I'll keep for at least 5 years plus. So a $1500 price difference wouldn't dissuade me from Di2. However, if there's no real reason to go Di2, I certainly wouldn't mind pocketing the difference.

Hence, price is a secondary concern, not price is no object.

merlinextraligh 04-13-10 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by gsteinb (Post 10663525)
What a weird leap. What's wrong with regular dura ace as am option?

Nothing. My thought process was do something pretty high end, hence Di2. (I'm not above bling, for bling's sake.)

The weight weenie in me, however, is thinking going with Red, you could build something uber light.

kimconyc 04-13-10 08:53 AM

BTW, has anyone noticed how overpriced SRAM Red is getting, esp. after last year's TdF?

A lot of places online sell DA 7900 for around the same price as SRAM Red now. Price/weight was one of the big selling points of SRAM Red over DA or SR11 (or at least I thought it was).

blacksquid 04-13-10 08:53 AM

Campy. Both of my other bikes are Campy equipped and I'd like to keep it that way! :thumb:

c0lnago 04-13-10 08:53 AM

AX cranks, AX brakes, fiberlyte rings, Campy derailleurs/shifters, Recon cassette...easy!

^oZ 04-13-10 08:54 AM

Definately Di2, and I used to be a sram guy

sstorkel 04-13-10 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by merlinextraligh (Post 10663398)
Shifting appears to favor Di2.

I did a long test-ride on a Specialized Di2 bike. I didn't think the shifting was that much better than Red. Maybe worth $5 or $10 more than Red... which is why I'd never buy Di2.

swifty 04-13-10 08:58 AM

DI2. It's so much better than anything else out there it's not even funny.

Nachoman 04-13-10 08:59 AM

I don't own Di2 or Red. But it seems to me that people gripe about Red and not about Di2 (except for the price).

kimconyc 04-13-10 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by sstorkel (Post 10663590)
I did a long test-ride on a Specialized Di2 bike. I didn't think the shifting was that much better than Red. Maybe worth $5 or $10 more than Red... which is why I'd never buy Di2.

Sora would seem really good while riding around a parking lot.

Did said "long test-ride" include climbing mountains or shifting while in the drops?

invwnut 04-13-10 09:27 AM

Di2 is quiet for the most part. I ride with a guy who has it. I don't hear him downshift or upshift as easily as I do from manuel shifting. I still am a SRAM guy and would take Red. I think that DI2 will be more costly on maintenance down the road.

JoelS 04-13-10 09:40 AM

Given your 2 choices, Red. But I wouldn't buy either. I'd go Campy. Neither the SRAM and Shimano hoods fit my hands. Campy does.

tspek 04-13-10 09:46 AM

Dura Ace...

rishardh 04-13-10 09:51 AM

DI2 for me. If you are a sprinter wouldn't you prefer Red for their tucked in shift lever function?


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